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JohnDClay ,

…wikipedia.org/…/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substan…

I guess Teflon is a PFAS. The list of things that use PFASs was very long, I wonder why they went after fire fighting gear early? I couldn’t find any information on an effective alternative. To get the same thermal protection with less effective chemicals would it need to be heavier?

Edit: I guess the firefighters union is lobbying for getting rid of them, so I’d hope there’d be other effective options available. www.iaff.org/pfas/

linearchaos ,
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I am extremely suspect that they were able to remove the bias for cancer from turnout gear. These guys daily job normalizes breathing in of cancer giving dust. They disproportionately smoke because it lessens the effect of having to work in a burned out area.

I hope they have a good non-cancer giving candidate to replace the PFAs. As long as the new garments underperform the old garments they will find ways to get a hold of the old garments.

AmidFuror ,

Yeah. The article uses "linked to" to describe that the chemicals may cause cancer. That's weasel worded and needs to be quantitative. The argument that some departments have started using PFAS-free gear and that proves the chemicals aren't needed is specious as well. You need to quantify the deaths and injuries from gear with and without PFAS.

Counting ladies around the lunch table whose husbands have prostate cancer is not good science.

ravhall ,

Smoking generally exacerbates the harmful effects of smoke exposure. The combination of tobacco smoke and smoke from fires can compound respiratory and cardiovascular issues, making firefighters more vulnerable to diseases.

peopleproblems ,

Yes, but that’s counter to the point of why they do it.

It’s like a desensitizing thing. It doesn’t actually make things easier, just tricks your mind into it.

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