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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S , (edited )
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The Answer.

From the song’s lyrics:

I don’t believe you have the answer

I’ve got ideas too

but if you’ve got enough naivete

and you’ve got conviction

then the answer is perfect for you

That’s kind of an obnoxious response when you yourself said:

I fear that you’re mistaking your own pessimism for absolute truth, but I’m willing to be convinced otherwise.

(emphasis mine) followed by:

What, in your view, needs to be done?

Like you basically asked for my answer after saying you’d be willing to be convinced. You asked “what needs to be done?”, and I replied with things that I think need to be done. If you didn’t ask, I would have kept my mouth shut because frankly I’m pathologically disinterested in telling people what to do, probably to a fault. If you weren’t convinced then that’s fine, but it’s just kind of obnoxious to ask for an answer and then chide me for giving you my answer.


When fascists take power it’s not unheard of for them to line up commies and anarchists against a wall and shoot them.

Yes, and that’s why we need to prepare ourselves for when they do, which they WILL do regardless of who gets elected as the figurehead.

I’m all for ideological utopianism

I’m not [2]! I have explained over and over again all throughout my responses in this post’s comment section that I have very practical motivations for why voting is a waste of time. I encourage you to go through my comment history and see what I have said to others in this thread.

but preserving your moral superiority…

Yo literally the first thing I posted in this comment section was a meme dunking on the delegates and their misery, which is bar none the most engagement I have received on any comment and almost all of it negative. No one here thinks I’m morally superior. And in case you were wondering, I don’t like me either.

So let’s explicitly do away with the moral superiority pretense [1].

… is little comfort when you and your family are staring down the barrel of a fascist’s gun.

Yes, exactly, that’s why we need to build our community defenses against these fascist pricks before they kill us, keeping in mind that we’re in a liberal dominated community on a “civility-at-all-costs” instance where we’re not allowed to talk seriously about revolution!

But as I have said to other users, particularly the comment you initially replied to:

I got no beef with people voting for Democrats in the general election, even though I disagree with their choice, because it doesn’t affect the outcome of anything. My beef is with these delegates, these people in a position of influence and power.

So go vote Democrat if that makes you feel safe, I’m not going to bring it up again because it doesn’t matter, but I’m not gonna pretend that it’s helpful.

But also keep in mind that these are the assholes who platformed a cop over a Palestinian in the middle of their genocide…

Again, I invite you to reread what I’ve commented to you so far, and to go through my comment history and see what I’ve said to others.

[1] Really, my position is, boiled down, that supposedly “practical” solutions that violate common morality (for example, letting people die to save money in insert industry here) are not really practical at all. This inextricably couples practicality to morality.

Frankly, as a human actor who fails to always act practically, I acknowledge that for similar reasons, sometimes I also fail to act morally, i.e. in laughing at the pain of other humans because they happen to collude with an evil institution. Hence why I reject the idea that I am morally superior, and that I have asserted as such anywhere in this comment section.

And in the sense that the means should reflect the ends, I admit that I haven’t lived up to my own ideals, out of anger and irritation at the constant stream of bullshit being foisted on me and everyone I know by these very Democrat ghouls.

But I don’t believe that I need to be a perfect moral actor to speak out about Palestine and the fascists at the DNC!

[2] For similar reasons as those in [1], ideology should be coupled to practicality, which itself should be coupled to morality. Hence why I’m not interested in anarchism as a utopian ideology where anything is prescribed, but as a practical solution for humanity to overcome capitalism.

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