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GBU_28 , (edited )

Trying to understand codemonkey, I believe they agrees there’s no justification. What they mean is that once a verbal fight started, tempers could have flared, and violence was inevitable, but not acceptable.

That said, I agree the optics are very bad, and more importantly, society should start from the default position of first assessing if a hate crime happened.

First thing should be “were these folks targeted based on their orientation?”

After that is thoroughly vetted, only then can it be considered “did a bunch of folks get heated in a shake shack after the customers were firmly but non discriminatorily told to knock it off?”

Edit if a reader thinks I took a side other than “hate crime bad, determine hate crime FIRST” with this comment you really need to think again.

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