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carl_dungeon ,

However, he did fuck a couch so…

Wilzax ,

Fascist spreads lie about opponents.

What else is new?

billiam0202 ,

JD Vance reiterates false claim

JD Vance lied. Saying things you know aren’t true isn’t “reiterating false claims” it’s fucking lying. Stop giving these assholes cover.

Trump lies.

Vance lies.

The GOP lies.

Fox News lies.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

“They couldn’t beat him politically,”

He’s never won the popular vote, and he lost the second election by a sizable margin in both popular vote (over 7 million more), and the electoral college (74 more electors).

“so they tried to bankrupt him.”

Who tried to bankrupt him? How? What are you even referring to? Also, who needs to try to bankrupt a man who has filed bankruptcy for his businesses SIX(!!!) times. Nobody could be more successful at bringing Trump to bankruptcy than himself and his stupid business decisions.

“They failed at that, so they tried to impeach him.”

Didn’t try. Succeeded. Twice. Failed only to convict him and remove him from office a few months early. And that was only because the spineless partisan GOP Senators refused to hold him to account and protected the traitor.

"They failed at that, so they tried to put him in prison.”

That sentencing hearing is still on the horizon, Vancy-pants. I’m not holding my breathe for any real jail time myself, but I wouldn’t be counting my eggs before they hatch either. And while that documents case is delayed… if you don’t make it into office so he can pardon himself like the weird bitch he is, you will almost certainly see more convictions in the future. That presidential immunity you’re counting on doesn’t do shit for the illegal actions he took after leaving office, dumbass.

“They even tried to kill him.”

Don’t even need to refute this one. You better hope that all Trump’s enemies don’t come for blood though… he has made quite a lot of those and makes more every day.

NegativeInf ,

Didn’t the FBI finally find a social media account of the shooter from like 2019 or so and it was full of racism? Hold on. Lemme find that article…

The Guardian

Abbate on Tuesday appeared alongside the acting US Secret Service director, Ronald Rowe Jr, before a US Senate panel and said: “In about the 2019, 2020 timeframe, there were over 700 comments posted from this account. Some of these comments, if ultimately attributable to the shooter, appear to reflect antisemitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence and are described as extreme in nature.”

CNN

FBI Deputy Director Paul Abbate said in a joint Senate hearing that the bureau is working to verify a social media account that appeared to reflect “antisemitic” and “anti-immigration” themes that is believed to be linked to the shooter who attempted to assassinate former President Trump

That second one is a video.

MasterNerd ,
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

Wouldn’t this dude be 15-16 at the time of those posts? That’s a lot of time for a young person to change their views. I know I basically did a 180 from conservative to leftist in that time frame.

I’m not trying to say he wasn’t right-wing, but using what someone posted when they were in high school as evidence for political motivation 4-5 years later seems flawed to me

BlemboTheThird ,

In the absence of any other visible political opinions I dunno what else we’re supposed to attribute to him

krashmo ,

Why obsess so much over his motivations? I can think of 1000 reasons why someone with a gun and a lack of morals might want to kill Trump. Does it really matter which one got him to the rally? Even if we found a verifiable suicide note saying “I did it for X reason” it wouldn’t change anything.

NegativeInf ,

Because it’s relevant to the conversation and the point Vance is trying to make. There’s no evidence he was a Democrat beyond one 5 dollar donation after the fucking insurrection. To me it sounds like he’s a libertarian who doesn’t like tyranny.

Kecessa ,

Wasn’t the donation made by someone else with the same name?

NegativeInf ,

If so, even more to the point.

WatDabney ,

Even with my deservedly low expectations for Republicans, it’s astonishing how little integrity Vance has.

worldwidewave ,

Trump dredged the swamp and Vance is the gunk they found at the bottom

ech ,

it’s astonishing how little integrity Vance has.

The dude’s only hireable trait is the lack of it. Trump thinks he can win on his own merit and just wants an obedient stooge to make sure Jan 6 actually happens this time.

SkaveRat ,

his sofas have even less integrity, being all soggy and such

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