When he says ‘the matrix’, he means ‘the interests of the average worker’.
Remember, this is the same guy trying to sue to the National Labor Relations Board out of existence, because things like workplace safety and overtime pay and not having racist workplaces are inefficient.
Also… fucking what, he talked with Trump about how to reduce the national debt?
Ok 1, thats almost certainly just going to translate into auesterity, ie, dovetailing with Project 2025 to gut a whole bunch of government agencies…
2… Trump has expanded the national debt more than any other President in history, and is so astoundingly economically incompetent he wants to remove all (?) taxes and replace this with a 20% across the board import tariff, which would basically detonate the economy.