Fox Moderator: “Vice President Harris, how would you respond to the accusation that your administration was responsible for the supply-chain crisis, grocery price inflation, massive corporate layoffs, Texas power outages, the summer heat wave, and the border apocalypse?”
Harris: “What? Now wait…”
Fox Moderator: “President Trump. They say you have the best golf record of any president in history. How did you accomplish this historic feat?”
You know he’d completely fuck up the answer and go on ranting about migrants crossing the border, inflation, how smart he is and other rants. In previous interviews on Fox News they have handed him simple questions on a platter which were written to make him look like a good guy…and he completely screws it up and makes him self look like an idiot. It’s actually pretty hilarious.
Did you see that Fox News one recently where Laura Ingraham repeatedly tried to help Trump’s public image by giving him numerous opportunities (repeating the same soft ball question 4 or 5 times in a row) to walk back or tone down some of his controversial comments? He could not take the hint at all, just kept rambling about completely irrelevant stuff while she desperately tried to feed him the answer. It was pretty funny.
The biggest issue is many people will have only seen the first headline and not the update. They got inaccurate information and it won’t be corrected, and the NYT is to blame.
“Cancels” is the wrong verb again. ABC can cancel it, Trump can only decide not to show. ABC and Kamala can go ahead and have a debate with the audience or even put a cardboard cut out in his place and play random quotes he’s made and let Kamala disagree with them. ABC would get views and advertising revenue.
The right neutral verb phrase there is “backs out of”. The one I would pick is “shirks” or “fears”
Trump: “I am chickening out of the debate with Harris, and trying to force it onto a right-wing propaganda network that won’t let me lose.”
New York Times: “Trump has accepted the invitation to debate Harris.”
No he didn’t, you fucking hacks. How the fuck does one accept their own invitation? He wasn’t invited to shit, he burned his invitation and is demanding Harris play a new game.
Fuck Trump for being a cowardly weasel, and fuck the New York Times for this bullshit narrative.
I asked my question because the NYT headline that I personally saw didn’t say “Trump agrees,” and I wanted to verify whether that was the actual headline or an interpretation of it.
Yes, the network that had to pay nearly a billion dollars for pushing a false narrative in order to get Trump elected the last time around is the perfect venue. Oh, and a live Fox News audience? What could be bad about that?
Because it wasn’t. That blood was the spatter from an actual victim behind him. He has been pretending to have been shot, without any actual injury of any kind.
How could the blood have been from the other victim? They were no where near that close to Trump. They would have had to have been on the stage with him lol
Blood spatter can travel quite a long distance. The shooting victim was in the crowd immediately behind Trump at what looks to be about 15-20 feet away. If he was that close, a high velocity projectile could create spatter that could reach the podium.
Apply Occam’s razor here. Of course he’s milking it for all its worth, but he got hit by something. Bullet graze, shrapnel graze, shattered glass graze, whatever it was it did hit him.
I’m not completely convinced. There is no visible evidence of an injury. There has been no public release of info regarding the specific nature of the injury or the injury’s exact size or location. The next day, he appeared in public with a bizarre, fake-looking bandage. And the day after that there was no visible mark at all.
He is world-famous for lying and it is physically possible that it’s not his blood. Without some solid evidence, I’m just not convinced he was actually injured. He is absolutely the kind of person who would pretend a real victim’s blood is his own if it will bring him some media attention.
I absolutely agree that it is something he would do. I just think the likelihood of him getting hit with blood spatter so perfectly from twenty feet away is quite low. And there seems to be no other blood on the stage area. Nobody else looked bloody that I could see.
Ears bleed a lot from a minor scrape. They also heal very fast. His doctor is a fraud so I do not put any stock in his 2cm wound assessment. This is the same doctor that says Trump was the healthiest person to ever be president while lying about his height and weight.
I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.
Don’t give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a “news” network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the “journalists” playing moderators like children which is how we should’ve been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.
Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”
While entertaining for us, I don’t think that’d be a wise reaction. If she wants to win, she probably also needs to sway some people that are lifetime FOX junkies. Such a reaction could have a ‘basket of deplorables’ effect (being the stone cold truth, but hardly effective)
Being nice to idiots has proven to be hardly effective. Kamala needs to read word for word the arguments the Fox News lawyers made when they were in court for the dominion case. Fox News isn’t news it’s entertainment and they don’t employ journalists they employ entertainers. This is what Fox News said.
No, what she needs to do is win this election. That’s her job, everything else (like taking entertainment corpos to task for their shady tactics) comes secondary right now.
I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win. If she’s running on doing just that why wouldn’t she take a shot. Why hide? You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says? Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters and she could do that by saying the quiet part out loud.
I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win
Okay, give me an argument why setting Fox straight will help her win the election, because just saying so isn’t an argument. I’d argue that time spent bickering ‘with Fox about Fox’ isn’t time spent getting people that wouldn’t otherwise vote for her, to vote for her. (and that, by the way, is how one impedes the other)
Why hide?
Nobody said she should hide.
You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says?
And this is the main point: Yes actually. If she makes salient points about matters that are dear to them, something is going to gnaw eventually. Have you seen Bernie Sanders’ appearances on the network? The audience definitely seems to be on his hand some of the time, just because he points out that what they have been told on the network isn’t making sense. It can be done. A bunch of them are a lost cause for sure, but certainly she ought to be able to get some of them to vote for her, she running against Trump (for fox sake!).
Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters
Agreed 100%, those also watch Fox though. And Trump spouting his garbage freely on that channel without opposing voices will not make them vote for Harris.
You really think it’s not ridiculous to point out how ridiculous it all is? There is value in calling out the elephant in the room however there’s no value in validating Fox News and giving into the grift. That only benefits Fox News and Trump.
I sincerely hope Harris never meets to debate Trump at Fox. Fox will just ambush Harris and edit the footage to make Harris look dumb or insincere. The whole exercise will be pointless because Americans will not get a fair representation of both candidates.
He made a post saying that’s the “deal”. In a way it’s a brave brazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she’s walking away.
If she can go on Fox News and score a couple points against him it’ll go very well for her though; going into the proverbial lions den and coming out the other side
No (current) Harris voters are watching Fox News right now, she only stands to gain votes if she handles herself.
Fucking hell I’m actually excited. If you had asked me literally a month ago I wouldn’t have given a shit and would have laughed if you had told me I’d be interested. Don’t get me wrong I was going to vote either way, but man I cannot wait for Harris to slam the shit out of this dirt bag and make a national embarrassment of him. The shit that worked with Biden sure as hell isn’t going to fly with Harris.
I cannot stand his voice; I always end up muting the TV and reading the closed captioning. Those poor people that have to do the live captioning though…
When Trump was in office foreign translators got a ton of shit for doing thier job. So many non English speaking people thought the translators were drunk. That made more sense at the time than The President of the United States of America actually saying the things he said. There was also the time he got laughed at by the entire United Nations.