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MyOpinion ,

Crush him! Crush him!

Viking_Hippie ,

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    yetiftw , (edited )

    arguably billionaires and corporations are still people-powered

    edit: as in the wealth of billionaires and corporations only exists due to the exploration of the labor of the people. without that labor, billionaires wouldn’t exist

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Technically but not really. Both are powered by a pathological addiction to hoarding as much money as possible, with little to no regard for anything else.

    yetiftw ,

    I meant that both only exist due to the labor of individuals. without the workforce, billionaires and corporations would not exist

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Ah ok, on THAT we agree 100%

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c6b94898-1264-4639-98c4-a51112a5dfc5.jpeg

    AbidanYre ,

    What would you consider 170,000 volunteers if not people?

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Good point. I may have been too hasty lol

    Draegur ,

    The content of Trump and Vance’s rhetoric is what spotlights it as weird. It didn’t need our help, although it is satisfying to point it out and call it what it is.

    worldwidewave ,

    How satisfying is it that the race is no longer the media constantly haranguing that “old man too old”, and now Kamala can just stand back and point and say “that’s odd”?

    I’m so relieved that this election is finally able to pivot and be about how uniquely unqualified Trump is, and how very fucking weird he and Vance are. If you’re looking for the side that’s not aligned with American values, it’s the felon and his eyeliner-clad sidekick.

    Draegur ,

    denormalization is … honestly refreshing.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Haha yeah sure, sure… people powered. Rich people maybe lol. The common man ain’t out there clamorin for the VP to get hand-selected by the DNC.

    SHIT i don’t even hate her or anything. But people powered… Hahahaha! I’m to old to fall for that shit.

    DashboTreeFrog ,

    As a complete outsider, not living in the US but with family there, it does feel like people are more excited about her than they’ve been for any US politician in a good while. Maybe not people powered but there’s definitely more positivity overall compared to Joe as candidate.

    Mog_fanatic ,

    I mean, I think waaaaay more than anything people are just excited for literally anything other than a 9000 year old dude. That sucks in general but on top of that the only two flavors of wrinkly old dude we got was senile grandpa or pathological liar mega asshole. I think at this point people would get pretty hyped about a three legged goat running for president.

    Not shitting on Kamala, I am starting to like her more and more and wish her the best for sure but I’d take literally just about anything at this point.

    Snowflake ,

    Clearly never had a senile grandpa. Biden is more of a man at his age than you will ever be at your peak lmfao. Like you won’t even accomplish 10% of what he did for this ungrateful country.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Oh my gawd i thought for sure you were doing a bit but you are serious! (or commited)

    Ive made jokes about blue MAGA before but youre like … The real thing. Hey everybody! Check this guy out!

    schnurrito ,

    When is “a good while”? People were excited for Obama and look what that guy ended up doing

    DashboTreeFrog ,

    Yeah, that’s about when. Heck, I know a lot of people who are still really into Obama. Not sure about the general sentiment in the US but just about every person I know not living in the US still think of him as the best US president, except for the rare Trumper. I think he generally did a good job of charming the international scene despite everything

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    It’s true what you say, at least as far as a regular yankee can say. They’re was palpable relief when joe stepped down. I never thought it would happen but I’m glad it did, cuz harris has the chops Biden doesn’t and i hope she wins.

    But I’m not gonna forget the experience I’ve gained in my 30 odd years following politics as a hobby… “People-powered” implies we folks in the dirt are driving her campaign when of course it’s large corporate donors who are providing her the required money and will be deciding her platform.

    I ain’t saying anything surprising or controversial. I’m not teaching anyone anything new here. I just capital H Hate pandering and ill call it out every time.

    Guess that ruffled some feathers this morning. Ahhhh oh well

    DashboTreeFrog ,

    Fair, the wording of “people powered” probably isn’t really accurate, more like “people really seem to like her and there’s positive, growing support among the public”. As you said though, in the end it feels like politicians just end up following corporate money’s orders.

    Kamala has a swell of positive public opinion that I hope she can ride to the presidency. I just hope she doesn’t squander all that good will later on.

    MadhuGururajan ,

    Yes but you’re not so clever to deduce that. Everybody who doesn’t swallow every word politicians use can figure that part out. What would be interesting is if you decide that a politician lying is the reason you’re gonna vote for the other guy. Then I would question the “I don’t even hate her” part.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    “What would be interesting” is if i got to be a fly on the wall the moment you learned the limits of your intellect. Proud of it, yes? You like to show it off? Is that what your comment to me is?

    (I know you’re smart enough to understand that question was rhetorical)

    Where your logic breaks down here: it’s predicated on the premise that i have a motive beyond the words i spoke and the message i sent.

    But i was speaking in frustration, much like you. There’s no motive, sherlock.

    Now please. Take that genius and apply it somewhere useful.

    Ensign_Crab ,

    People wanted Biden to step down.

    Draegur ,

    yeah me and my <$50k per year job,

    if you think i’m “rich people”, you must have a truly wretched and pathetic life. Have you tried perhaps touching grass?

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Its not about you you goddamned clown. Who taught you to think you were this important? Surely not your supervisor at your 50k job?

    I promise its not me being a smart ass here. You need a dose of humility to grow as a person. I hope someone more clever than me can provide you that someday.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Does growing as a person include insulting strangers over the internet?

    Draegur ,

    aw somebody’s angy

    does reality not lining up with your pwecious widdle feewings make you feel upsetti spaghetti?

    heh. Good.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Hmm, yes i am angy. Because i myself am somewhat arrogant, i feel personally insulted when i feel someone intellectually beneath me gettin’ uppity. This is probably where we are similar.

    You win this round.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You probably should not talk about others being intellectually beneath you while also not, apparently, knowing how to capitalize I.

    rusticus ,

    Your unreasonable anger on the internet argues there’s a better place for you on the red team.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Are you trying to stump for Trump? Get outta here red hat

    rusticus ,

    You’re not smart enough to read the room. I’ll do it for you: nobody here gives a shit about your angry white man opinions.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    Mmm this makes three comments by you. I imagine you want to feel some of what I’m selling, right?

    Cuz you want to dance with me, right? Something about the way i turn a phrase gets something moving inside you. Something you just gots to reply to. So you can test yourself. Yes? No? Am i way off?

    If you haven’t blocked me yet, please do sell me. On you. Show me something i need to see. Show me how you’re better, either intellectually or morally. “The room” is meaningless.

    You are speaking to me, not them. Speak your truth as if it’s the last chance ever. Do it well. Do it now.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Small donations add up and are a huge help to a political campaign. Even Trump relies on them despite having massive corporate donors.

    rusticus ,

    As opposed to Russia powered.

    slimarev92 ,

    Okay, so what is the “common man” clamoring for?

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    No thanks, friend. I’ve had such a fine, fine morning eating i couldn’t possibly take another bite.

    So you and me will play later.

    USSMojave ,
    @USSMojave@startrek.website avatar

    So brave

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    I think the hardest thing for peeps like you to grok is how little you actually bring to the table. Even “so brave” is so… used.

    How many samey small-minded simps do i have to attend to before i get to rest? Is it you? Are you the one that will be different?

    Be honest with yourself. Youre not dumb… You’re just not interesting. So ill at least make this useless goddamn exchange useful to other people by telling them, thru you, that if you feel any sorta way about me then wait until tomorrow like i said. Because i am bored, and youre not that guy, and all this attention is starting to make me blush

    barooboodoo ,

    My brother in Christ, you know we can all see your profile and read your comments right? I don’t have to scroll a page and a half to find you using a seven year old meme and replacing one word with “poo”. Using “boring” to describe you would be generous.

    the_post_of_tom_joad ,

    I don’t have to scroll a page and a half to find…

    I am so, so happy you told me this. Goddamn man maybe i shouldn’t log off

    AbidanYre ,

    I think the hardest thing for peeps like you to grok is how little you actually bring to the table

    Let’s see what great wisdom you have to bestow on us.

    Haha yeah sure, sure… people powered. Rich people maybe lol.

    Well, that was disappointing.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the hardest thing for peeps like you to grok is how little you actually bring to the table.

    You literally refused to name a different candidate. You just said the “common man” doesn’t want her. You are bringing nothing to the candidate.

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