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someone who sees new bodycam videos daily of cops violating people's civil rights

That doesn’t mean anything though. You can find new body cam videos daily of cops bending over backwards to try to protect people’s rights. Neither of it means anything. It could be happening 1% of the time, or 50%, or 99%, and there would still be daily videos showing one or the other. The US is a big place; there are literally millions of new bodycam videos being produced every single day.

I actually don’t know what the number is - I have kind of my perception that it’s rare but that’s not based on too much hard data tbh. Do you know anything in terms of how quantitatively common it is?

Actually maybe a more basic question - can you send me a couple of these videos from this week? You and I may have different definitions of violating people’s civil rights.

and who has had run ins with crooked cops

I mean I am biased because in my area the cops are super professional; I’ve seen them in more than one heated dispute with someone and never seen them be anything but cool about it. But like I say I think the real question is how quantitatively common it is.

In places like Portland and Seattle, the police departments have been under federal consent decrees due to a pattern of violating constitutional rights.

Can you tell me more / link to a story? I would want to know more about it.

We're just a couple years out from George Floyd

4 years

The big shift that I saw was after 2020 with George Floyd and the other big instances that year and the massive shitstorm that ensued. Honestly, that stuff makes a difference. Without the protest I think things would have stayed more or less in the sometimes-yes-sometimes-no land.

But like I say that’s all just my anecdotal perception. I actually think it would be good to bring something quantifiable to it.

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