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Ensign_Crab ,

Reckless disregard for the truth. Come on, NYT, you had a whole “v. Sullivan” about this.

kylie_kraft ,

wtf is going on at NYT, ffs. is all the money in fact-phobic reactionary hackery these days?

jonne ,

Always has been

Diplomjodler3 ,

No. You whippersnappers may not remember, but journalistic standards once were a thing.

jonne ,

Was it when they said Hitler didn’t really mean what he said about Jews before he became Chancellor? Or when they knowingly printed lies to make the case for an Iraq invasion? Or be stenographers pretty much anytime the cops say anything? Or the IDF?

credo ,
FlyingSquid ,
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I made what might have been the mistake of showing my teenager Idiocracy recently, because now she compares everything to it. I mean she’s not wrong, but…

Diplomjodler3 ,

Absolutely not a mistake. When I read 1984 as a teenager, it forever inoculated me against doublespeak and propaganda. Maybe that movie can fulfill a similar function today.

FlyingSquid ,
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I know it wasn’t actually a mistake. There’s just been a lot of “that’s just like Idiocracy!” “I know, I know” conversations now. She’s never wrong, obviously.

Diplomjodler3 ,

If it wasn’t that, she’d find something else to be obnoxious about. For me everything was literally 1984 at the time.

AnarchistArtificer ,

Now you’re older, how frequently do you think you were right in your comparisons?

IndustryStandard ,

The New York Times has had some past scandals. Notably during the Iraq war. They regained their reputation. Now they are losing it again.

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