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They want everyone to be treated as if they are a danger without evidence simply because “some people are.” That is frankly the antithesis of our justice system

And yet, we have the patterns of behavior we see in our police. That’s tangential, but I couldn’t not mention it in response to this comment.

I agree that taking guns from people who have proven themselves dangerous is a good idea, and that it can be done before significant harm is done in many cases. What I do not agree on is the concept of being considered dangerous without any evidence to base the assumption on.

You know what would shut me the hell up on gun control? These simple measures, which would be treated by the right like I’m calling for a total ban on guns.

  • To own a gun, you must be licensed as a gun operator.
  • To be licensed as a gun operator, you must complete a nationally standardized gun safety course. Then and only then can you take legal possession of a firearm.
  • To teach such a course, you must be trained and certified to do so.
  • Trainers of such a course are empowered and encouraged to reject issuance of a license based on a standardized list of criteria. One might call them flags. One might call them “red” flags, to highlight that they should be cause for concern. Edit - such “flags” could in some cases be resolvable.
  • To maintain your license status, you must have a safety course refresher on some periodic basis. (I’m thinking a certain number of years, more than one, but not too many.)

Caveats:

  • If you are licensed, you get concealed and open carry privileges in every location where this doesn’t violate applicable local/state laws.
  • If your license lapses, it’s a felony to leave your home with your guns.
    • Charges dropped if you make a valid self-defense case after doing so.
    • And if you are leaving the home to overthrow your tyrannical government, then the laws don’t really matter at that point, right?

Would my plan solve every problem? No. Would it be a better solution to school shootings and other related issues than “let’s arm teachers and everyone else Wyatt Earp style?” Yes, yes it would. And, like any such measure, it could be further refined over time.

Edit - I made a distinction between owner and operator, I think this makes it better. shrug

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