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Blamemeta ,

Extreme? Razorwire is extremely visible, and its used at plenty of borders.

Ragnell ,
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Yes, like the one between North and South Korea.

Blamemeta ,

Well yeah. You don’t use it unless you have problems with people hopping borders.

Ragnell ,
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The only reason people crossing a border is a problem is when you are an authoritarian government trying to control your population.

I am not comfortable at ALL with the US having razorwire borders in common with North Korea. It's not a far journey from keeping people OUT to keeping them IN and conditions in the US are getting worse.

Blamemeta ,

Or you know, you have limited resources and infrastructure that can’t handle infinite people.

Ragnell ,
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It's not infinite people, because there's not infinite people. There's only about 8 billion people and most of them are in Asia.

And how are our resources over in the US? Well, we throw away more food than we eat. (and a lot of our food production is actually DEPENDENT on migrant workers from the south who come in to pick fruits and vegetables during the harvest season.) We have enough empty homes to actually give every homeless person a home and we are still building. We have huge stretches of unoccupied land. Service industries are COMPLAINING that they don't have enough workers right now.

Yes, you and I individually may not have any money. But this is a problem with rich hoarders, not a problem with lack of resources. Our problems are policy-based, the scarcity is artificial.

A finite number of people live in countries that are too dangerous for them to live in because of US foreign policy. A finite number of people need to move from country to country seasonally to get work.

There is no good reason to hurt someone trying to cross the border. There is no good reason to throw a child into a river to prevent them from entering.

Blamemeta ,

(and a lot of our food production is actually DEPENDENT on migrant workers from the south who come in to pick fruits and vegetables during the harvest season.)

So basically, illegals are second class citizens who don’t deserve a living wage. Every fucking time, you guys come up with racist arguments.

Ragnell ,
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Oh dear, what to say about that.

  1. Migrants would be eligible for work visas.
  2. People are not illegal.
  3. I never once said they didn't deserve a living wage. Jackass businessmen might not pay them enough, but that's wrong. I said our food production is DEPENDENT on migrant workers. No matter what we pay them, we NEED them because we NEED the influx of people to fill those jobs. They should get a living wage.
  4. That you jumped to that conclusion on such a statement suggests you have been WAITING for a change to whatabout me, and tells me that you are not arguing in good faith. So good day.
dylanmorgan ,

Hearing the description of these buoy chains, they are there to kill people. The buoys spin on the cable they’re strung on, and under the buoy line is netting. There are blades between the buoys as well. Obrador’s words are completely accurate: these devices are barbaric.

fubo , (edited )

Controlling the national border is not within the jurisdiction of any individual state, including border states such as California or Texas.

It’s likely that by deploying deadly man-traps into the border, that individual Texas state officials have personally committed murder under federal law. Generally, laying unattended, concealed deadly traps is not permissible under American common law — even if they are intended to ensnare a person who is committing a crime. Submerged razorwire intended to snag and drown a person would seem to count as a concealed, deadly trap.

Since their state jurisdiction does not extend to enforcing federal immigration law, qualified immunity would not apply; these officials may be prosecuted as individuals under federal criminal law.

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