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‘I feel like a criminal for quitting’: nurses in the US fight ‘stay or pay’ agreements

Filipino nurses for Ohio-based company say they have been forced to pay thousands in fees after signing training contracts

Filipino nurses are calling for the US’s top labor watchdog to review controversial “stay or pay” training repayment agreement provisions that have left them facing lawsuits and thousands of dollars in fees after they quit their jobs.

Training repayment agreement provisions (Trap) are contracts employers require workers to sign before beginning a job and stipulate that if a worker leaves the job before a specified time, they owe substantial fees.

Nurses who worked for the Ohio-based CommuniCare Family of Companies, one of the largest providers of post-acute care in the US, say they have been subjected to buyout fees of thousands of dollars when they resign and have been sued by their former employer.

Jeddalyn Ramos, a 30-year-old from the Philippines worked for four months at a CommuniCare-owned short-term and senior rehab facility in Pittsburgh in 2022 and paid $15,555.45 in fees when she quit her job.

tsonfeir ,
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It’s important to read your contract.

Chetzemoka ,

Additional context about these “training” fees. The people coming over from the Philippines are TRAINED NURSES. They’re properly educated, often already working, and in my experience generally excellent nurses. These “training fees” are literally wage slavery. These nurses require very little training, mostly about US healthcare laws and facility policies. These facilities are not teaching them how to be nurses.

SnotFlickerman ,
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That’s literally how your bosses want you to feel, because they don’t feel criminal, and they’re just “passing the buck” of giving a fucking shit about human lives to you. That’s literally why they’re fining people, because Capitalism has gone off the rails and now even imaginary profits have to be gotten, or it’s not enough.

We should have known this would be the endgame when copyright lawsuits in the early 2000’s would have equalled payouts larger than the amount of US currency that actually existed in circulation at the time.

Why? Because those lawsuits were predicated on “lost profits” and each “pirated copy” being an equally lost sale. The fact that the numbers added up to more money than was physically possible to exist kind of tears that argument apart, because not every pirated copy is a lost sale.

However, when we allowed businesses to start having that attitude, they’re going to pin every lost penny on the consumer and workers. Once again, not even actually lost pennies, just pennies they think they lost.

Businesses no longer think in terms of “risk,” they literally think we owe them. Similar with advertising and ad-blocking. The suits at ad companies believe we are stealing from them we don’t view an ad. So when they set up a fucking huge billboard on the side of the fucking freeway and I don’t look at it, they consider that theft of some kind.

No, you dumb piece of shit, it’s a risk you spent money on as a business, and not everyone is required to see it.

Reminds me of Mr. Show and Coupon the Movie. Movie bombs so movie execs sue American public into seeing the movie.

Warm. And Mandatory.

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