This particular platform (Lemmy) probably isn’t the place to get the movement going either. Some of the biggest instances are chock full of folks thinking this particular genocide isn’t real
This is why I tend to avoid Lemmy and use kbin/mbin. Beehaw is technically Lemmy but is an instance that I could see forking the code if the Tankies try anything.
The Beehaw maintainers already said they plan to move to something else, as when they complained about unimplemented moderation features the devs acted like douchebags and outright told them to leave the platform if they didn’t like it, when they move on from Lemmy i will follow them to whatever they move to, hopefully still on Fedi
yes; as far as i’m aware there has never been a mass-death event like this in the contemporary history of the Hajj, although it’s always been arduous and more potentially deadly when it falls during the summer
we’re obviously, contextually talking about deaths from heat, not from all the other stuff that happens on Hajj. don’t do this “you cannot be serious” routine when you simultaneously don’t even engage with the context of the question
Jesus! (Or Isa?) Some of these were like single localised events. I was just thinking about how many people come through without even bringing that into it.
Well, I guess a casual disregard for the life and limb of non-elite non-Saudis is pretty on brand for them.
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Click here to see the summary“All of them [the Egyptians] died because of heat” except for one who sustained fatal injuries during a minor crowd crush, one of the diplomats said, adding the total figure came from the hospital morgue in the Al-Muaisem neighbourhood of Mecca. The pilgrimage is increasingly affected by climate change, according to a Saudi study published last month which said temperatures in the area where rituals were performed were rising 0.4 degrees Celsius each decade. Earlier on Tuesday, Egypt’s foreign ministry said Cairo was collaborating with Saudi authorities on search operations for Egyptians who had gone missing during the pilgrimage. AFP journalists in Mina, outside Mecca, on Monday saw pilgrims pouring bottles of water over their heads as volunteers handed out cold drinks and fast-melting chocolate ice cream to help them keep cool. Saudi officials had advised pilgrims to use umbrellas, drink plenty of water and avoid exposure to the sun during the hottest hours of the day. Health officials “provided virtual consultations to over 5,800 pilgrims, primarily for heat-related illnesses, enabling prompt intervention and mitigating the potential for a surge in cases,” SPA said. — Saved 72% of original text.
Taranum, who only has one name and guesses her age at 34, sleeps here with her three daughters. She was recently diagnosed with typhoid, an illnessmore prevalent during heatwaves when water contaminates more easily. She said at the peak of her illness, she felt like she would die. She’s terrified at the thought.
“I can’t die,” she says. “We are homeless. Who will take care of my daughters?” She shakes her head: “But I can’t complain. Other people have it harder. Two babies died in this heat.”
Absolutely grim. Homeless single mothers stricken with typhoid that say “I can’t complain because others have it worse.” Remind me again, why are billionaires allowed to exist in a world where this happens?
Especially when there are billionaires from your country. Not having a dig at India especially. We have a few in UK. One of them is married to our millionaire prime minister.
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Click here to see the summaryShe didn’t wake up from her afternoon nap in late May, on the dusty scrap of land she knew as home, with only a blue plastic sheet to shade her. -“This is what Indian vulnerability looks like,” says Aditya Valiathan Pillai, who studies policy responses to extreme heat at the New Delhi-based thinktank Sustainable Futures Collaborative. “You have 75% of India’s working population, well over 350 million people who are directly heat exposed because of their jobs,” he says, citing World Bank data. On a shaky phone line arranged by a friend, she tells NPR that she pushed together a lean-to near her tree where she gave birth. In fact, some areas of India may become the first places on earth to be exposed to heatwaves so extreme that humans will not be able to survive them without air conditioning or other types of cooling, according to a 2020 study by the consulting group McKinsey. The dead included 33 poll workers in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, where citizens were casting their vote in the last stage of India’s six-week elections that ended on June 4. — Saved 85% of original text.
i gotta say, this AutoTL:DR seems kind of…bad. “she tells NPR” is a pronoun attached to person that is not named elsewhere in the TLDR. Maybe Beehaw should look into banning this one? I’m not sure how to offer feedback to the bot’s author.
I think it’s to be expected and excusable. When reading the summary with it in mind, that it’s a bot summary, not a human summary, it’s acceptable and still useful. Text is not necessarily coherent. And when it isn’t, it can indicate other content.
I read a different autosummary earlier today with a similar issue. It referred to something or someone not previously mentioned in the summary. With auto-summarization in mind, it was obvious that there is more information on that in the full article. In a way, that was also useful in and of itself (instead of simple emission).
Dunno why asking whether to ban. Are others even better? None logically understand the text. If most are coherent, this may be an outlier. If machine summarization is not good enough for someone they don’t have to read it.
i bring it up because there was a discussion at some point about whether beehaw as a whole should allow bots. I think the agreement was that some users still find them helpful. I’m just questioning if that is still the case, as the summary doesn’t strike me as particularly useful. But if others disagree, then i have no beef with it.
“We immediately began to sink, they saw that… They heard us all screaming, and yet they still left us,” he told the BBC.
"The first child who died was my cousin’s son… After that it was one by one. Another child, another child, then my cousin himself disappeared. By the morning seven or eight children had died.
It replied that its staff worked “tirelessly with the utmost professionalism, a strong sense of responsibility and respect for human life and fundamental rights”, adding that they were “in full compliance with the country’s international obligations”
I don’t know understand why this article would quote Yanis Varoufakis or Trita Parsi, but not a single Israeli. Does Moshe Feiglin have meaningful support? Is he likely to hold a seat in the Knesset? What are the odds his party gains seats against Likud in the next election?
Do I have the wrong expectation of what journalism is?
I’m confused. Are Feiglin, Ben-Gvir, and Smotrich not Israeli?
Him quoting Hitler isn’t even the main issue in this case (to me), it’s really what he’s using the quote to justify, which is the expulsion of Palestinians from Palestine/ Gaza, which is, as the article demonstrates, a much more broadly-held viewpoint among Israelis, including ones who unarguably do have a lot of political power.
Lastly, if there are not a lot of public quotes condemning this coming out of Israel, for them to quote, isn’t that itself kind of a problem?
I’m confused. Are Feiglin, Ben-Gvir, and Smotrich not Israeli?
Quotes from a right-wing Israeli get together in January isn’t completely out of context, but it is pretty out of context for a reaction article to something in June.
Him quoting Hitler isn’t even the main issue in this case
I think it sort of is in the context of this article if the author is seeking a response to cite.
Lastly, if there are not a lot of public quotes condemning this coming out of Israel, for them to quote, isn’t that itself kind of a problem?
Sure, that is possible. But you would assume someone citing Hitler in Israel would get some sort of response, so not touching that at all seems like an omission. Yanis’s thoughts on that are less interesting to me than a random Israeli teenager on Omegle. Also, this Feiglin person seems to have last held office in 2015 (I don’t know, just a quick Google), which might be useful context. I want to know if this nutter has any hope of grasping political power, or if he’s the equivalent of Rush Limbaugh.
Rush bragged about how Bush senior carried his bags when he stayed at the White House. He had tremendous political power whether he could command troops (like the PotUS / congress) or not.
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Click here to see the summaryJaradat is one of 24 children killed in Israel’s airstrikes on the West Bank since last summer, when the Israeli forces began deploying drones, planes, and helicopters to carry out attacks in the occupied territory for the first time in decades. Since June of last year, and with increasing regularity during the Gaza offensive, the Israel Defense Forces have shown a new willingness to use air power in the West Bank, regardless of the collateral damage to children and other civilians caught in the blasts. Palestinian fighters’ have adopted more ambush tactics and deployed more improvised explosive devices in response to Israeli military raids in the West Bank in recent years, which Munayyer said could account for the new prominence of air power. After a January strike in Balata refugee camp, Seth J. Frantzman, an adjunct fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and analyst at the Jerusalem Post, wrote that “increased activity from groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad have led Israel to be more aggressive in its campaigns.” The Israeli drone strike targeted a building in the center of the camp that functioned as the local headquarters for Fatah, the political party that exercises partial control over the West Bank (and has fought armed conflicts of its own against Hamas). “The new level of violence by the Israeli army in the West Bank, specifically targeting refugee camps, has resulted in a large amount of internal displacement,” said Aseel Baidoun, acting director of advocacy and campaigns at Medical Aid for Palestinians. — Saved 92% of original text.
I have been reflecting recently that I was not learning the same lessons about the Holocaust as some of my classmates. I got the impression nothing like it should ever be allowed again and we should do everything we can to stop it when we see the signs. I assumed everyone got that impression but I’m realizing that was not the case.
I think part of the problem is that when you read about the horrors of the Holocaust as a kid, you can’t help but think of Nazi Germany as a cartoonishly, outlandishly evil place full of people who spend every waking second thinking about how much they hate impure bloodlines.
You come away with an impression that it should be obvious when genocide is happening.
Then you go home after school and you see something about genocide in the Middle East, and you ask your parents about it and they say “Well… it’s complicated.” And if it’s complicated – if it’s not cartoonishly, outlandishly evil – then it must not be genocide.
Yeah, I think this “cartooning of evil” is at the core of American patriotism and entitlement. There are a lot of Americans who legitimately believe that we’re immune to certain phenomena “because we’re American”. It’s the same as when people say they’re not racist “because they’re not trying to be”. Or the rich man bankrolling the presidency isn’t evil because he doesn’t twirl a mustache.
In the same way, this can’t be genocide, because we would never do a genocide! We’re just doing what we believe needs to be done to maintain our standard of living…
My Oma was in the Netherlands in the 1930s. Her family sheltered part of a jewish family(the elderly mother who was too sick to escape to North America, and one of her sons, a lawyer, who stayed behind to care for her.) This was before the invasion and the start of the war.
At the time, late 1930s, she said that everyone knew something bad was happening to the Jewish people the Nazis rounded up, but not what.
After more than a year of occupation, they were turned in by a neighbor for extra rations because none of her family needed daily visits from a doctor. The Nazis took the two Jewish people and her Dad into a camp.
A local factory owner, some months on, tried to have everyone from the area released in return for his compliance in letting them use his factory output. Her dad was among those released, but they refused to release any Jewish prisoners. Her parents then immediately joined the resistance and helped it out until the end of the war. The factory owner allegedly ensured that the output to the Nazis was changed to be only subtly defective units, pipe walls too thin, cooled too quickly etc.
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