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CanadaPlus ,

Uhh, normally that would be a crazy number, but it’s Hajj. Is it still a crazy number?

alyaza OP ,
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yes; as far as i’m aware there has never been a mass-death event like this in the contemporary history of the Hajj, although it’s always been arduous and more potentially deadly when it falls during the summer

DdCno1 ,

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    alyaza OP ,
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    we’re obviously, contextually talking about deaths from heat, not from all the other stuff that happens on Hajj. don’t do this “you cannot be serious” routine when you simultaneously don’t even engage with the context of the question

    DdCno1 ,

    Nope, these mass death events are a regular occurrence due to the Saudi government’s incompetence. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_during_the_Hajj

    CanadaPlus ,

    Jesus! (Or Isa?) Some of these were like single localised events. I was just thinking about how many people come through without even bringing that into it.

    Well, I guess a casual disregard for the life and limb of non-elite non-Saudis is pretty on brand for them.

    DdCno1 ,

    Yup, they are one of the most inhuman regimes on the planet, right up there with the likes of China and North Korea: hrw.org/…/saudi-arabian-mass-killings-ethiopian-m…

    Devi ,

    We’re up to 922 according to that link. That’s insane.

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    Click here to see the summary“All of them [the Egyptians] died because of heat” except for one who sustained fatal injuries during a minor crowd crush, one of the diplomats said, adding the total figure came from the hospital morgue in the Al-Muaisem neighbourhood of Mecca. The pilgrimage is increasingly affected by climate change, according to a Saudi study published last month which said temperatures in the area where rituals were performed were rising 0.4 degrees Celsius each decade. Earlier on Tuesday, Egypt’s foreign ministry said Cairo was collaborating with Saudi authorities on search operations for Egyptians who had gone missing during the pilgrimage. AFP journalists in Mina, outside Mecca, on Monday saw pilgrims pouring bottles of water over their heads as volunteers handed out cold drinks and fast-melting chocolate ice cream to help them keep cool. Saudi officials had advised pilgrims to use umbrellas, drink plenty of water and avoid exposure to the sun during the hottest hours of the day. Health officials “provided virtual consultations to over 5,800 pilgrims, primarily for heat-related illnesses, enabling prompt intervention and mitigating the potential for a surge in cases,” SPA said. — Saved 72% of original text.

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