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wanderer ,

Again, they did exactly this last new year.

newsweek.com/green-day-maga-trump-new-years-eve-1…

sarcasticsunrise ,
@sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world avatar

Imo, this is the coolest thing Green Day has done since “Nimrod”

“Conservatives freaking out that a popular pop punk band aren’t actually right wing psychopaths?! News at 11”

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wtf were they expecting? Like, it’s green day, they’ve always been pretty forward about their politics, and it’s been in the lyrics the entire time.

dylanmorgan ,

Never ceases to amaze me when “fans” of a band appear to completely ignore their lyrics. Are these people who only know “Longview” and “Time of your Life?”

paraphrand ,

I’ve had times in my life where I’m oblivious to lyrics, and times when I’m really tuned in to them. So I can see how people get carried along with the music regardless of the lyrics.

It’s still funny when people make realizations like this though.

Sam_Bass ,

Awww. Cry

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

"Since when did punk rock talk about politics "

Ummmm… pretty sure that’s a defining point.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Says the party who dances to rage against the machine while literally fighting for the machine

probableprotogen ,

New band idea: Rage for the machine, a band for moody conservatives who like licking boots

Sunforged ,

Kid Rock has entered chat.

teawrecks ,

What year is it? Are they going to be offended by SouthPark next?

Angry_Autist , (edited )

cuntservatives have been outraged by SOMETHING literally every year I have existed on this planet, and my first console controller only had one button…

Still remember my mother freaking out over a satanic panic and throwing away all of my action figures because I was apparently worshipping satan by playing with my Ninja Turtles.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

They think the Olympic games were somehow against them too and got triggered. Conservatives are the biggest freaking snowflakes

Deftdrummer ,

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    Angry_Autist ,

    I’m sorry objective reality is sad for you.

    octopus_ink ,

    Green Day drew controversy among conservatives during their first U.S. gig this week after changing a lyric to anti-MAGA.

    I don’t really see the controversy honestly. Band modifies their own lyrics in a way magas don’t like. Magas whine like the snowflakes they are, rest of world shrugs. (And I think they have done this at least one other time recently.)

    I was kind of amazed that neither this Dropkick Murphy’s speech nor this Dropkick Murphy’s album, nor especially this song from that album, seems to have generated any anger from that crowd. They seem like exactly the sort of band that magas might just have assumed were “on their side.”

    StrawberryPigtails ,

    I’m not sure the Dropkick Murphy’s are a band most folks have ever heard of. I think the only song of theirs I’ve heard someone else play was Shipping Up to Boston. It was being used for a commercial. Great band with great music, but I don’t think they ever hit mainstream.

    octopus_ink ,

    Fair point, maybe I overestimate how big they are.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    Would recommend the bloody Irish boys.

    southsamurai ,
    @southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah, they aren’t a big name. They should be, because they’re fucking awesome, but they’re niche

    MermaidsGarden ,
    @MermaidsGarden@lemmy.world avatar

    So Green Day does the most Green Day thing ever and the MAGA crowd loses their minds. Who are the snowflakes again?

    MedicPigBabySaver ,

    And of course they love The Boss’s Born in the USA.

    numberfour002 ,

    I chuckled heartily earlier today when I saw a post on the front page of the R-word site that was posted to the conservative sub. It was a picture of the band holding up a mask of Trump with idiot written on it and a title along the lines of “After Trump assassination attempt, Green Day holds up head of Donald Trump”.

    Literally, it was just a mask of Trump with something like “Idiot” written on it from a band that quite literally is known for criticizing the government (understatement).

    They were making it sound like it was an implicit threat to Trump and hateful rhetoric inciting further violence.

    I swear there must be some brain damage involved in those types of conclusions.

    Taako_Tuesday ,

    Meanwhile there were several effigies of Obama with a noose around their necks

    acosmichippo ,
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    no no no, you see that was just a metaphor for states rights.

    nepenthes ,
    @nepenthes@lemmy.world avatar

    Methinks this moron started the pearl clutching:

    Twitter post from article-- text available there

    StrawberryPigtails ,

    ROFL!! Apparently the folks complaining haven’t actually ever listened to Green Day. Though the severed Trump head at the concert was probably a bit much.

    voracitude ,

    It was a mask, “severed trump head” is an extreme and inaccurate description.

    Angry_Autist ,

    maga chuds live on extreme and inaccurate descriptions.

    projektdotnet ,

    Maybe they’re confusing the mask with the Kathy Griffin photo from years back?

    Kyle_The_G ,

    I went to a green day concert before trump was even president and they had the crowd cheering that line, its not new. They were awesome by the way.

    Godort ,

    Green Day used to be anti-establishment, now they are the establishment.

    American Idiot is almost 20 years old and the message hasn’t changed. Do these people just have zero media literacy?

    OsaErisXero ,

    Yes

    PorradaVFR ,

    Yes. They also think Rage Against the Machine “got political”.

    RATM.

    Rhaedas ,

    Take the power back.

    Also, WAKE UP

    DScratch ,

    That is my second favourite thing to happen on the internet ever.

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    What’s your first?

    something_random_tho , (edited )

    Remember when Tom Morello had to slap down Paul Ryan? rollingstone.com/…/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-e…

    yesoutwater ,

    Ah, yes. The far away time when “Far Right” just meant ideologically conservative and not the wannabe brownshirts. So long ago, 2012.

    A simpler time.

    PorradaVFR ,

    chef’s kiss

    Morello is a crazy talented guitarist and overall nice guy but he’s also really intelligent and educated which tees up idiots for easy humiliation. He rocks in all the ways.

    folkrav ,

    Did these conservatives miss American Idiot, or are they just being reactionary as they so often are?

    KillingAndKindess ,
    @KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Tbf, they did sell out a tad after that album

    folkrav ,

    American Idiot and the what, 3 albums before it and all the following, were all on Reprise Records (Warner). American Idiot specifically had some very strong marketing campaigns. If one really does subscribe to that “selling out” rhetoric, they did so much earlier than that.

    Eldritch ,

    Most of them are just peanut brains with the Goldfish attention span who only like the sound but never listen to the lyrics. Hell one of the local grocery stores around here in their mix has a few tracks by the stones in particular give me shelter. It’s an iconic song. But most people have no idea what the lyrics are. It’s sort of surreal to walk through the store listening to the singer scream out rape and murder it’s just a shot away. It’s a fun sort of irony I suppose.

    octopus_ink , (edited )

    This is the same group of people who (somehow) thought Killing in the Name Of was aligned with their views, and now make comments like “I liked RATM until they got so political.”

    oxjox ,
    @oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

    Punk band upsets establishment. News at 11.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    I don’t man, I don’t consider them punk punk but pop punk, but still doesn’t change your statement.

    I’m still surprised punk hasn’t made a come back. We are dying of old age and this is the right environment for punk to flourish.

    Eldritch , (edited )

    Not punk but industrial. Though KMFDM has always been political. But there’s a few tracks on the new album that are far less subtle than usual.

    Also forgot to point out that punk was a product of its time. And it’s environment. Very much a DIY ethic. Which lent to its sound. DIY today is going to sound a lot different. Unless people are going to ape the sound without any of the influence.

    Even many of the iconic punkers got tired of it and moved on when new things became available. As mentioned John Lyden AKA Johnny rotten. Left the pistols for Public Image limited. Last I heard Jell-O was still trying to get into California politics?

    TexasDrunk ,

    TL;Dr: Long, rambling old man shit incoming.

    You’re absolutely right. The DIY landscape is so incredibly different. Now you can get an electric guitar with reasonable QC and an amp with modeling and a hundred presets that plugs directly into your computer to record. There’s loads of free lessons online that show people how to play instruments. There are tabs for almost every song put out by any semi-popular artist so you don’t have to try to reverse engineer them anymore. There are backing tracks. We didn’t have any of that shit. We had a solid state amp with two channels, one of which was poorly distorted.

    And I’m here for it. It’s not my dad’s punk. It’s not my punk and pop punk. It belongs to new people and I’m excited for them to look back at it the way I look back at the bands that excited me when I was a kid. They’ll have new genres built upon the shoulders of the ones I listened to, which stood on the shoulders of those that came before.

    Eldritch ,

    Yep at the time an old guitar and a beat-up drum set was realistically what you’re getting. Maybe a basic organ / keyboard. Which is what led to the distinct sound along with General lack of prediction and mastering.

    Now you can pick up second hand synthesizer sequencers etc etc etc. The Landscapes opened up a lot more and as you said with digital audio workstations Etc pretty much make any sort of sound you want.

    freebread ,

    Plus Lydon is a Right-Winger now.

    uberdroog ,
    @uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

    At least they have been pretty consistent in their lean.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    That’s true.

    octopus_ink ,

    I grew up in (what I perceive as) the heyday of punk, but mostly ignored it. Lately I’ve been tempted to take a closer look at some of those old punk bands I always heard about back in the day.

    Eldritch ,

    Those kids were right. Not so much as adults anymore some of them. John Lydon in particular having become a bit of a disappointment. But it’s still a fun era and easy to listen through. Seeing as it really encompassed about a 5 to 6 year span.

    Post Punk/ dance Punk is having a bit of a Resurgence again though. Lots of good new stuff coming out. Though not as much political necessarily.

    octopus_ink ,

    it’s still a fun era and easy to listen through

    Posing the same question as I did to someone else - can you recommend an entry point or two? Heavy on the political/social messaging is fine with me, but a more understandable lyrical style than what I remember of a lot of those old punk bands would be preferred.

    Eldritch ,

    Wikipedia has a decent list to get an entry point. At least for the big ones. Start following any of those through YouTube Spotify Etc and you’ll get down into rabbit holes of small bands that only put out a few songs as live bootlegs that only five people in the world remember. Rabbit holes are always a good time.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    I would recommend listening to some.

    octopus_ink , (edited )

    I will do - can you recommend an entry point or two? Heavy on the political/social messaging is fine with me, but a more understandable lyrical style than what I remember of a lot of those old punk bands would be preferred.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    The partisans, subhumans, the exploited, discharge.

    Cheap sex, the casualties, cockney rejects for newer late 90s early 2k. Some of the ones I think would be what your are looking for.

    Hardcore punk, oi, crust, anachro punk.

    teawrecks ,

    Check out Desaparecidos, side project of Conor Oberst. They have 2 albums, one in 2002, one in 2015, both just as relevant today.

    oxjox ,
    @oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

    The day Trump was elected I was excited for a new wave of anti-government human-rights protest music. The best we got was “This Is America”.

    Itsamelemmy ,

    Dead milkmen made a comeback.

    youtu.be/QlcmIWGogkw

    sarcasticsunrise ,
    @sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world avatar

    NOFX atleast had “The War On Errorism” during the W years, but it was mostly whelming

    sarcasticsunrise ,
    @sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh shit! How could I forget the best of the best when it comes to leftist punk: Propagandhi! "Less Talk More Rock and Today’s Empires, Tomorrow’s Ashes are essential listening. I’m hella dating myself with these albums, the Adderall has kicked in way too late I guess

    ech ,

    The least punk thing is to gatekeep the genre.

    not_that_guy05 ,

    Classifying them pop rock would be gatekeeping. I still classified them within the punk genre and still agreed with their statement of punk.

    acosmichippo , (edited )
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    classifying in genres is by definition gatekeeping. somewhere you have to draw a line between punk and everything else, otherwise the term punk loses all meaning.

    metaStatic ,

    "Genres are the death of creativity"

    irish_link ,

    I’m down with you being all in on the statement but I have a question for you.

    What would you consider Punk in 1990 or even 94?

    not_that_guy05 ,

    Like coming out in those years or still playing during those years?

    irish_link ,

    I would day both. What do you consider punk during that time?

    Maggoty ,

    The revolution will not be televised. It’s out there but there’s no money behind having them go big anymore.

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