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Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Would you like to engage in a polite and collected conversation about the YouTube Shorts UI?

lupec ,

Best I can do is unhinged and passionate, take it or leave it

Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

“Best you can do”? Nah mate, give me the worst

sunzu ,

I am with this person ☝️

DeathbringerThoctar ,

Same

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/f8/94/61f8946a40ea1fba891f319e57b35134.gif

SteveFromMySpace ,

GET YOUR FEELINGS OUT

RisingSwell ,

Not even just the fucking UI. I have bad internet so it takes several minutes to watch a short, presuming jt ever works. And it’s just shorts. A full video loads no problem, but a short requires so much to even try to start playing.

joyjoy ,

May I interest you in an extension?

Sonotsugipaa ,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No thanks, I’ll stick with the orIginal UI

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

perhaps the best feature of the enhancer for youtube extension

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b530cf72-fcfb-44db-8e49-cc7e2f187cad.png

Sonotsugipaa ,
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Didn’t work well for me, I just use a URL replacer extension that also replaces reddit URLs with my local RedLib

AlexWIWA ,

Or how “watch later” is a playlist that I can’t exit out of. I use watch later for hour long videos. I don’t want them to auto play

rtxn OP ,

You can take the video ID of a shorts URL and paste it into a regular video URL to open it in the less dogshit UI. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fxJicOO_dBw -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxJicOO_dBw

You could make a greasemonkey script that does this automatically.

Jimmycrackcrack ,

Oh wow that’s such a good idea. I’d probably still just continue not ever watching yt shorts since they are generally really bad but if I ever for some reason need to see one I’d love to be able to actually have video player controls on it.

warm ,

UX has seemingly disappeared across the web unfortunately. Sites just change things for the sake of it.

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

I’m convinced that almost all of the frustrating shit that corporations dump down on us comes from weekly staff meetings where some suckup climber just wants to tell the boss hey look, we did a shiny new thing! A thing nobody wanted or asked for. Line must go up.

warm ,

Paycheck justification.

naonintendois ,

They don’t change things just for the sake of it. They change things so they can point at it and say, “look what I did! I deserve a promotion!”

techt ,

Value-adders.

paraphrand ,

Sadly it’s like that because the money people A/B test things to make the numbers go up.

grue ,
  • go back
  • video gone

That part is the worst. I am sick and tired of websites breaking the back button! When I click back it’s because I wanted to see the thing that was there before. If I wanted it to just refresh from scratch I would reload the page instead!

It’s not just YouTube, by the way. Even Lemmy does that shit too!

kionite231 ,

That’s why I always middle click the links.

Tanoh ,

…and it drives me insane when it is not real links but some javascript/button/div-with-onclick/etc and middle click won’t work

sacbuntchris ,

JavaScript frameworks give front end devs enough rope to hang themselves with

KingJalopy ,

Jerboa doesn’t do that in my experience.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

The UX team is almost never to blame for this shit. It’s almost always the monetization folks and PM forcing the UX team’s hand.

You can quit if you don’t like it, but the market for UX is shit right now. So you grumble and draw the dark patterns so you can pay your mortgage while you casually browse LinkedIn for a new gig.

henfredemars ,

Engineers are successful in spite of management not because of it.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Every engineer of every type in every discipline in my experience

peanuts4life ,
@peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m so happy that new pipe is working again.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

But… you clicked the sponsor link, thereby increasing their profits, right!? Sounds to me like the system is working as intended then:-P.

atzanteol ,

“Broken as designed.”

cmac ,

It’s not a link to a sponsor. It’s a YouTube info page about what it means for a video to have the “Contains sponsorship” tag.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

That… sounds far dumber than I gave even them credit for! :-|

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

it’s an informational page about sponsors, not the actual sponsored link

they can’t even make a dark pattern right

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

web 1.0 was superior; it was all downhill from there.

lurch ,

You can still make sites like that and they will work and also load faster.

skuzz ,

But, for that to work, as a company, you have to actually care about the user. Shareholders and project goals are what they care about. Well. Mostly shareholders.

dylanmorgan ,

YouTube UI/UX in general is total trash. The Apple TVOS version is probably the worst but I haven’t seen a good one yet.

possiblylinux127 ,

Piped or Invidious

Cosmos7349 ,

it’s not that they’re “completely incapable of making a functional website”. It’s that making a good website might take traffic away from their apps, where they have more power to collect metrics and bypass ad blocking.

penquin ,
  • NewPipe
  • Tubular
  • GrayJay
  • YouTube Revanced
  • Firefox for mobile with ublock origin.
  • Brave browser mobile are all options you can use instead of Google’s garbage.
rtxn OP ,
  • Those are mobile apps
  • They have no effect on the website
  • The issue is present on the desktop website
  • Adblock does not remove the button in question without a custom cosmetic filter
  • I’m already using Newpipe and Revanced, and block all ads on mobile and desktop (rude of you to assume otherwise)
penquin ,

My apologies then. I misunderstood the issue. What button are you talking about if you could elaborate a little more!

rtxn OP ,

When you hover the mouse over the thumbnail of a video that contains sponsored content, the preview starts playing (which is another separate gripe I have) and new buttons slowly fade in. One of those is a hyperlink to an information page about sponsorships that takes up the upper half of the thumbnail’s area. The problem is that those buttons are present and clickable as soon as the preview starts, but invisible for about half a second. Clicking on what appears to be the thumbnail might take you to a different page, and navigating back to the front page refreshes the suggestions.

romamix ,

Freetube is the app for the desktop platforms. It got some issues with the latest Google attempts to block the 3td party apps, but they’re working on the new releases fast

brbposting ,

Neat

github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube

rovingnothing29 ,
@rovingnothing29@lemmy.world avatar

There is a similar desktop app: freetubeapp.io

Aurenkin ,

Not just the web UX unfortunately.

SoupBrick ,

The TV UI is worse, especially the search. It only shows 10-12 videos related to what you actually searched. The rest are suggestions.

fitgse ,

I’ve given up on YouTube because of its terrible interface and just use tube archivist + Jellyfin.

possiblylinux127 ,

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