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CaptainBasculin ,

Whether the winner is Trump or Kamala, both of them will still keep supporting Israel; as their actions benefit US overall. Trump even had the chance to resolve the israel palestine crisis back when he was the president. He didn’t. Why would he change policies after he’s elected again?

Tar_alcaran ,

What a weird focus on the US democratic party. Every single US government has been doing this exact same thing.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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What a weird whataboutism. No US government has ever supported israel in a blatant Holocaust.

Even the Republicans that supported an israeli Genocide told israel to cut it off after 3000 killed Palestinians.

If Trump was doing this you’d be up in arms. But Blue MAGA all the way.

DmMacniel ,
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Sure… Zionists that don’t support Israel.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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A history of U.S. presidents drawing red lines with Israel

During the Suez Crisis of the 1950s, then-President Dwight Eisenhower leveraged the threat of sanctions to convince Israel to withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula, per AP.

Back in 1981, former President Ronald Reagan indefinitely delayed two shipments of F-16 fighter jets to Israel over the ‘‘escalating level of violence’’ in the Middle East.

In 1992, the Bush administration threatened to withhold the delivery of $10 billion in loan guarantees to Israel if it continued building settlements in the occupied West Bank and Gaza, the Washington Post reported.

Rozauhtuno ,
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Every single US government has been doing this exact same thing.

So… both sides are evil?

Tar_alcaran ,

Correct

DmMacniel ,
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In essence the entire US Government regardless if Republican or Democrat are complicit in this ongoing genocide.

loaExMachina ,

That is true, but Republican’s electoral base mostly agrees with this whereas democrat’s electoral base doesn’t. Many Pro-republicans will gleefully vote for genocide or deny than that’s what’s going on. Pro-democrats, however are asked to tolerate genocide to vote for the lesser of two evils. It makes sense that the latter will protest and demand that the politicians who are supposed to represent them change their ways.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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So what you’re saying is the Democrats are the same as Republicans but they pretend to care.

DmMacniel ,
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Because if just one similarity exists that means both are the same. Now that’s the most basic and simplistic world view I’ve ever heard.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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Same on this issue.

Liberals really pretending to not understand what context is.

DmMacniel ,
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Dude I’m not even a US Citizen I’m just an outside observer.

Also you could have clarified that you meant to say that both parties have the same stance on the issue, but no you had to also attack me as I can`t read your mind.

Lupus ,

Also you could have clarified that you meant to say that both parties have the same stance on the issue, but no you had to also attack me as I can`t read your mind.

They probably did that on purpose - Motte-Bailey Fallacy

DmMacniel ,
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Oh nice, I didn’t know that this had a specific name. Thanks :)

Linkerbaan OP , (edited )
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Ironic that you attribute this to my comment instead of their.

DmMacniel ,
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His?

Buddy, if you don’t know either peek at the bio or use they/them.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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My apologies.

DmMacniel ,
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Apologises accepted, Captain Needa.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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You call my worldview simplistic. If you want kind words maybe don’t start with that.

DmMacniel ,
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Well apparently it’s even more simplistic as that.

DmMacniel ,
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Getting rid of zionistic tendencies won’t just happen during one legislative period. But I’m not deep into US Politics so I can’t make any statements or suggestions how to get rid of this heinous stance.

So yeah voting democrats is the lesser evil on only this topic, while it is a way better choice regarding other more domestic issues.

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