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Draedron , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

lol nuclear is really uneconommical, way too expensive and therefore really inefficient. You need 10-20 years to build a plant for energy 3 times more expensive than wind. For plants that still require mining. That produce waste we cannot store and still cannot reuse (except for one small test plant). For plants that no insurance company want to insure and energy companies dont like to build without huge government subsidies.

I know lemmy and reddit have a hard on for nuclear energy because people who dont know anything about it think its cool. But this post is ridiculous even for lemmy standards.

hypertown , in Mood

Go for a walk, read a book, watch a movie, play a game it will make you feel so much better. Just remember to change activities every few hours. If you’re going to play games for 10h you are probably going to get bored of it way too quickly.

CyberMonkey404 ,

Go for a walk, read a book, watch a movie, play a game

I’d love to, but I’m at work. There’s a bit of a lull between the storms of activity atm, and I would absolutely love to not waste time with just being stuck in the office. But I can’t afford it

hypertown ,

I know how you feel man. I used to work in a job like that. Honestly what saved me was reading some comedy manga on mangadex. Since it didn’t require a lot of brainpower and I could just stop reading it whenever I wanted it was perfect for times like this. My head also was in a much better state than after scrolling back then reddit for hours. If you don’t like manga you could just find some easy book.

If you can’t go for a walk during work go before or after work. I try to cycle every day after work and it always makes me feel better.

CyberMonkey404 ,

Thanks for the kind words!

grrgyle ,

Can’t read a book at the office? Working through a book whenever the queue was empty was one of the few pleasures of working retail/call centre

Gerprimus , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Nothing about nuclear energy production is good, sensible and safe! You are dependent on a finite resource, you have to put in an incredible amount of effort to keep it running. Not to mention the damage caused by a malfunction (see Fukushima and Chernobyl).

jaschen ,

What are you even talking about?!?! There is so much uranium in the world. Even if we completely switched over to nuclear power and without improvements in Nuclear tech, our sun would have fizzled out and we still would have uranium left.

Uranium is more abundant than silver and we don’t need much to power a nuclear reactor.

I like how people take Fukushima and Chernobyl as examples for disasters. Please go look up how many people have died from those disasters. Please go check. I’ll wait.

Chernobyl: 2 Fukushima: 0

Keep in mind that Chernobyl was built in the 50s with 50s tech it never maintained during the USSR era.

Fukushima did not anticipate a tsunami. Because of the Fukushima disaster we know have new protocols to improve future nuclear builds. If anything Fukushima is a prime example how safe a nuclear reactor can be even when the worst scenario happens.

EunieIsTheBus ,

I like how people take Fukushima and Chernobyl as examples for disasters. Please go look up how many people have died from those disasters. Please go check. I’ll wait. Chernobyl: 2 Fukushima: 0

Are you really that dillusional that you think that the only casualties are the people who died in the incident? Hundreds of peoples suffered from cancer and other long term effects alone in chernobyl. The area is still hazardous to people (as some ‘clever’ Russian invaders just proofed two years ago)

Please go check. I’ll wait.

PlEaSe Go ChEcK. I’lL wAiT.

Please just grow up, kiddo

Gerprimus ,

What are you even talking about?!?! There is so much uranium in the world. Even if we completely switched over to nuclear power and without improvements in Nuclear tech, our sun would have fizzled out and we still would have uranium left. Uranium is more abundant than silver and we don’t need much to power a nuclear reactor.

And yet we would still be dependent on an industry, just as we are today on coal, gas and oil.

I like how people take Fukushima and Chernobyl as examples for disasters. Please go look up how many people have died from those disasters. Please go check. I’ll wait.

As others have already answered: far more people died than you claim here! How much land was made uninhabitable for centuries? How many animals would have to die? How much food would have to be destroyed because it was contaminated? What happens if a tsunami hits an offshore wind farm? They collapse… And then? Do they have to be rebuilt?But you can do that because the land has not been contaminated

Gerprimus ,

Furthermore, any energy production that has the potential to injure, harm or kill thousands of people cannot be considered safe. Just because nothing has happened so far.

sandbox ,

There is so much uranium in the world. Even if we completely switched over to nuclear power and without improvements in Nuclear tech, our sun would have fizzled out and we still would have uranium left.

TL;DR: If we switched over to nuclear, we’d burn through the world’s reserves of accessible uranium ore in less than twenty years. Hopefully the sun will last a bit longer than that.

According to 2022 Red Book, there are around 8 million tonnes of Uranium which we could extract for $260 or less, per kg. The current price for uranium is around half that, FYI, so nuclear fuel prices would have at least doubled by the point we’re extracting that last million tonne.

Nuclear power plants use around 20 tonnes of uranium per TWh, according to the world nuclear association, and world energy consumption is around 25,000 TWh per year, according to the IEA. That would be half a million tonnes of uranium consumed per year. Meaning we would burn through the world’s reserve of reasonably accessible uranium in just sixteen years.

Avialle , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Nuclear lobby really tries to sell us to the fact, that it’s better to have control over power by a few big players. Must be terrifying to think about people creating their own power eventually.

Mubelotix ,
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Just make it public

prole ,

Who says it needs to be controlled by a few big players?

I mean, obviously we never would, but there could absolutely be a right way to do this. Nationalization could be a solution. Or something like co-determination.

Avialle , (edited )

It doesn’t need to, but it is… It’s fine to have ideas, but let’s keep them SMART: specific, measurable, achievable, REALISTIC, terminated.

sharkfucker420 , in Mood
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Gradually_Adjusting , in pff, if you dont understand html... you won't get the metaphor
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Hail Sedatin’

buzz86us , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Renewables fed into a fusion reactor is the best currently

fellowmortal ,

Yeah! Let’s dig a big hole till we hit lava and then throw everything into it. :)

EunieIsTheBus ,

‘Currently’?

Currently we cannot even sustain a fusion reaction. Not to mention utilize its energy output

spirinolas ,

That…makes no sense…

buzz86us ,

Currently the reaction doubles the energy that was put in. If this could be scaled it would be a game changer.

spirinolas ,

That’s not how fusion works…if it even worked already.

buzz86us ,
WallEx , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Renewables are better, cheaper and more scalable. Its not even close. Look at Denmark for how it can be done.

fellowmortal ,

Denmark looking decidedly not green this morning. It’s sunny, but virtually no wind - might be like this for another week. Check the map regularly to understand why unreliable energy is actually just a way of increasing gas usage.

WallEx ,

Okay, where is the comparison to nuclear? For that you have to build massive infrastructure, that costs billions, that no one want to insure, thats why it has to be backed by state money. After that the waste has to be managed by the state too, because no company wants to deal with the liability of radioactive waste for thousands of years at least, so that, too, comes out of the taxpayers pockets.

I don’t like fossil fuels, but this is just plain stupid

(and also as a cherry on top, tschernobyl, fokushima)

fellowmortal ,

Sorry - What?

You said Denmark had converted to green energy. I pointed out that they haven’t done anything like that. You are now moving the goal posts and saying “where is the comparative essay defending nuclear power”…

If you must, France turned completely green in the 70s. So they’ve provided 50 years of clean energy. Its a classic story and not as simple as I’m going to make out, but still. Look at the map link in the last post - any area that stays green is either using hydro or nuclear. Hydro is great, but you need mountains and water.

WallEx ,

Sorry, yeah maybe that wasn’t the best response.

But you still claiming nuclear is green is just crazy. There is still no place on earth that can hold nuclear waste. Especially not for the thousands of years that it would need. There is nothing clean about energy, that produces waste, that we can’t even handle.

Also, the energy mix in Denmark is very renewable wherever possible (ens.dk/en/…/annual-and-monthly-statistics)

Zacryon , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

Yes yes. Let’s continute to use energy sources which are limited in terms of available but necessary resources and cause highly problematic by-products. It has been going on so well so far. Hasn’t it?

Valmond ,

Are you talking about oil and gas?

Hjalamanger , (edited ) in padre goes hard in the pit, crowdkills the tourists, and dropkicks the posers
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cyberpunk007 , in pff, if you dont understand html... you won't get the metaphor

Woosh. I used to make html pages for fun. I don’t get it.

Cris_Color ,
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I made an HTML page once in elementary school for an elective, and I also don’t get it :)

I just wanna be a part of the conversation lol. But also what the fuck even is this meme 😅

no_comment OP ,
powerofm ,

I’m a full time software developer and I don’t get it

no_comment OP ,
0x0 ,
Viking_Hippie ,

🎵 Come on JB now it’s time to blow doors down!

no_comment OP ,
Appoxo , in Biden admits to taking drugs before the debate.
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The fact that thus is a real product…

jose1324 , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

It’s definitely not the best we have

Ibuthyr , in Nuclear isn't perfect, but it is the best we have right now.

But we don’t really have it now, which is the main problem. In the time it takes to build these things (also for the money it takes), we could plaster everything full with renewables and come up with a decentralized storage solution. Plus, being dependent on Kazachstan for fissile material seems very… stupid?

whome , in Biden admits to taking drugs before the debate.

Funny how we laughed at Trump holding a glass with two hands.

Mongostein ,

*bottle of water

whome ,
Mongostein ,

youtu.be/K2rgyOkqoaQ

Guess we were both right

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