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weecious , in Dear iPhone users:

Wow, to see an Xperia phone being used as an example instead of a bloody Samsung.

Good day to be an Xperia user.

jac ,

If they had used a Samsung, half the android’s features would be missing.

MarkalAlvarez , in adblock on mobile is 95% the only reason I use firefox

Google is fighting a war that it can’t win, people in general had enough of all these ads.

Whenever I can, I use a DNS or an adblocker or an open source app that it doesn’t track his users.

FriendBesto ,

The vast majority of users did not use or even really know much about adblockers in general until recently, when Google/YT shot themselves in the foot by Barbara Straisand-ing adblockers into the general public’s consciousness.

affiliate , in Dear iPhone users:

i hope i don’t end up with the -4000 mAh battery if i buy the phone

Fortatech ,

If you had one you could sell it for millions to some thermodynamics denyers.

WhiteBerry , in Dear iPhone users:

I’m about to drop a really dumb question in here:

Why do so many people dislike Apple? I have listed some of my problems with Apple (listed in no particular order):

  1. Keyboard layout
  2. I fundamentally disagree with FaceID and would prefer a fingerprint sensor
  3. Lack of customisation (you can’t even hide the finder on MacOS)
  4. Apple makes it really difficult for people to leave their ecosystem

However, I really don’t understand why people, ordinary people, dislike Apple, other than due to being overpriced. I mean I really think physical SIM cards are a thing of the past and less secure than eSIMs since you can’t just take a physical SIM out using a pin. Although I heavily dislike the provisioning of USB 2.0 in 2024, the reality is that most of my files, even on my Android device, are transferred via networks. And yes, for the point about battery, I don’t particularly care about the battery size as much as I do the battery life. Even then, I always have a charger in my bag. It also helps that I barely use my phone.

Once again, keep in mind this is from someone whose only Apple product is a Macbook.

I can understand hating on Apple as a company, I was furious at how long they took to throw USB-C on things, however, often times people provide arguments that are baseless, as are several “points” listed in this image.

Who cares about a physical capture button? Any professional required to use a camera for a living will not be using an iPhone. Who cares about physical SIM vs eSIM. Hell, I’m an advocate for eSIMs. Who cares about the unlockable bootloader? And really, with modern consumerism, who on earth is listening to hi-res wireless audio and not a song off of Spotify, YouTube, etc?

I agree with the 120 Hz point, there is no reason a flagship phone at a a flagship price should not provide a smooth refresh rate. I partially agree with the storage point, however, the vast majority of people do not take advantage of their phone’s storage, so why would Apple be competitive here? They try to optimise for profit. I definitely agree with the point about the lack of modern USB. The lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack kinda sucks for everyone who owns devices that cannot be used with phones without this jack.

I’m opening to listening to other people’s takes and discussing this with them.

doleo ,

There are more reasons than I have time to type out, but I am a long time mac and iDevice user. What’s got me raging lately is how, out of spite over a (justified, imo) EU ruling, apple is refusing to let EU customers access the newest toys in the playground. I’m in the process of transferring over to Android right now, I just havent found the right phone for me, yet.

SorryforSmelling ,

no you got a point. i think your listed problems are the main problems you can have. with the hefty price and the “elite” vibe they sell in ads and so on, its really easy to hate. hateing apple feels like punching up.

and (most) android users dont realise that instead of beeing in apples eco system they are “trapped” in googles. I apprechiate apple for them not just blatently selling personal data, recorded from my phone. I also think in terms of polish there is no competiton. whoever used both, iphone and android phone, cant deny that ios is just far more polished. everything just works.

I personally dont like the apple proprietary ecosystem, but with no really good open source phone os, they are the best alternative on the marked atm. i dont know about laptops.

Maggoty , (edited )

How are we trapped in Google? It’s a burden to move if I wanted to, but I can interface with everyone except apple just fine.

makyo ,

I think their point is that nearly every other phone is in the Android ecosystem, isn’t it?

Maggoty ,

Oh. In that sense yeah. But most of us are also trapped on earth under that logic. I do think we need some more competition in the operating system market but I’m not sure who could pull it off. Even Microsoft bounced off of it. There is Graphene but it’s a tiny sliver of the market.

GrammarPolice ,

There isn’t really an Android ecosystem if you think about it. All Android devices can seamlessly communicate with Apple devices except maybe when it comes to APK’s

PotatoesFall ,

for me the point about being locked into an ecosystem is reason enough.

Some more on that:

  • Apple has actively resisted efforts by the EU to standardize
  • iPhone doesn’t allow you to install apps they haven’t approved.
  • Apple devices often refuse to interface with non-apple devices despite being physically capable.
  • You cannot easily install other OSes on Apple hardware.
  • Apple software is almost entirely closed source, and they likely have backdoors everywhere.

I just want to own my phone man

GrammarPolice , (edited )

And let’s not forget their anticompetitive practices

slampisko ,

who on earth is listening to hi-res wireless audio and not a song off of Spotify, YouTube, etc?

The decision not to include hi-res audio support out of the box is more baffling when you learn that Apple Music in its basic package offers high-quality lossless audio for streaming. Why have this, and make your users jump through extra hoops to take advantage of it?

To answer your overall question, I am one of the Apple dislikers and with me it comes down to openness and customizability (I like to tinker with my electronics and computing devices, and I can do that much better with an Android device), and not wanting most of my money that I spend for the product I’m buying to go to marketing.

Maggoty ,

For me it was the pure ridiculousness of trying to pass documents back and forth with one person in the group using a Mac. Maybe Apple is better about universal document file types these days but that was it for me. I was never going to contribute to an ecosystem that created that level of disruption.

MeowZedong ,
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They frequently didn’t allow me to use copy/paste around 10-15 years ago and I never forgave them for robbing me of such a basic feature. I switched to Android as soon as my iPhone died.

some_random_nick ,

There are a few video on YT from reputable creators highlighting malpratices Apple does on a yearly basis to rip you off in every way imaginable. Louis Rossmann and Hugh Jeffreys have done some “compilation” videos on that topic. To point you to a quick one, search for “Astonishing Anti Repair Pratcices by Apple in the last 15 years” by Hugh. If you value yourself, don’t buy Apple products.

RacoonVegetable , in Dear iPhone users:
assassinatedbyCIA , in Dear iPhone users:

No one cares. Just use whatever phone you like. This post is extremely cringey.

PotatoesFall ,

use whatever phone you like

wrong. Use a fairphone

assassinatedbyCIA ,

Buy a phone and keep it for as long as you can, and in general, just buy less phones. Don’t upgrade each year, that’s extremely stupid.

PotatoesFall ,

agree 100%. One way to buy less phones is to buy a repairable phone.

assassinatedbyCIA ,

Repairability is definitely a factor, but don’t forget considering how long a company will support software updates for the device, how the device meets your needs no only today but 5-6-7 years from now, and your options for repurposing the device once it reaches EoL.

GenosseFlosse ,

That won’t solve the software side. My previous phone was still working, but then Google fucked up the software. The first because it required some new ssl standard for all connections that the phone didn’t support. The other one because google added a whole lot of local Infos, pictures and features to the map that could not be disabled, therefore rendering my Navi to a unresponsive, slow and battery draining app I could no longer use. And then there where some apps that would not run because my os was to old.

yeahiknow3 , (edited ) in Dear iPhone users:

I have both, and the iOS integration of basic features is what matters. Consider examples like… passwords; I’ll get a verification code in a text message or an email and it’ll auto populate and then delete the message. There are so many features like that, which make your phone a seamless part of the “ecosystem,” like wirelessly extending a screen to an iPad (with zero setup), or having your phone automatically act as a webcam — weirdly easy. Android is the opposite. You need an app to do anything and it will require setup and it won’t work every time. Convenience is what matters. Bootloaders and codecs are not as important as whether my earbuds connect instantly and 100% of the time. A phone should make my life simpler. Etc.

AFC1886VCC , in Dear iPhone users:

OP must be a 12 year old

NigelFrobisher , in Dear iPhone users:

The “physical capture button” sounds ominous.

ZILtoid1991 , in Dear iPhone users:

Someone should saw off the legs of the techbros that came up with the idea of removing the headphone jacks from phones. Just like the headphone jacks, legs are technologically “superseeded” by cars and electronic wheelchairs.

bdonvr , in Dear iPhone users:

That Sony retailed for $1300 when it launched

The iPhone goes for $800

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