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GCostanzaStepOnMe , in I like the web app more.

God forbid you have to pay for stuff.

kogasa ,
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God forbid you have to can pay for stuff if you want.

It’s a third party app. One of many. With an optional purchase to support the dev. Honestly…

BaconIsAVeg ,

With an optional purchase to support the dev.

You mean the schuckster trying to make a buck using another free API after the last one booted him out? Guy’s a slimeball.

kogasa ,
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What a genuinely unhinged take.

Aiastarei ,

You’re not paying for the API, you’re paying for the dev time.

Annoyed_Crabby OP ,

God forbid i can choose the alternative while talk about how expensive the other choice is.

D_isforPaul ,

The other choice is free though. You don’t have to pay.

PopOfAfrica ,

I doubt anyone who says this has donated to their Lemmy instance.

The truth is, humans try to justify their purchases. You didn’t want to pau for Sync, you would have happily used it for free.

You want to feel good for having paid for Sync.

AlecSadler ,

$20 one time for a well developed app that I use multiple hours a day is inexpensive.

I pay almost as much to multiple streaming services PER MONTH for a shitty experience and sometimes not a completely ad-free experience.

Anyway, in all honesty I chose the $1.99/mo because it gives the dev $24/yr into perpetuity. I also donate to instances. I also use Connect and Jerboa and Liftoff. It’s whatever.

Whirlybird ,

God forbid you have to pay for stuff.

But reddit asking to be paid for use of their API was the end of the world for these devs lol

Stumblinbear ,
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No, reddit demanded ludicrously high fees at barely 30 days notice. It gave nobody any time at all to figure out alternative monetization strategies. Many of the third party apps had expressed their willingness to pay, but that was just absurd

Whirlybird ,

Most of these apps had subscriptions already in place. All they had to do was remove the free access and maybe increase the subscription price a bit to $5/month (I’m not sure what they were charging before).

Stumblinbear ,
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They also had ads, which they’d no longer gain revenue from. Ads can pull in $3-5 per month per user. That’s a massive loss.

Whirlybird ,

They could still have ads.

Stumblinbear ,
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Not if you remove free access. That’s a great way to lose your entire user base.

Whirlybird ,

Apart from the ones that pay. You only need to look at any of the sync posts on here to see there are many, many of them.

Stumblinbear ,
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Ad revenue very often dwarfs the income from subscribing users by a huge margin. Sure, a single user subscribing pays for themselves plus a little extra, but your free users make up 70-80% of your revenue

Whirlybird ,

Sure, but again - removing the app takes away 100% of the revenue. Keeping it as subscription only gets you some revenue. Some > none.

Stumblinbear ,
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The amount of people that subscribe would likely not pay for the ongoing maintenance costs unless he’s willing to work for shit pay. Every hour he puts into maintenance is an hour he didn’t put into maintenance the other version that actually pays well enough

Whirlybird ,

There aren’t necessarily ongoing maintenance costs.

Stumblinbear ,
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No program ever created has never needed any bug fixing or improvement. That’s the nature of software engineering.

Whirlybird ,

Sync for Reddit wasn’t just created yesterday. There comes a point where almost all software is stable and will run be fine without updates indefinitely. Established Reddit clients were at that point years ago.

Stumblinbear ,
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That must be why Sync has been pretty consistently updated for a decade.

Whirlybird ,

Just because it has doesn’t mean it needed to be.

If I earned enough money from a product to be able to only work on it, I’d update it too - but that doesn’t mean it needs updates or maintenance.

Stumblinbear ,
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And that’s exactly how businesses become complacent and get overtaken by new players in the market

Whirlybird ,

These are reddit clients mate lol.

Stumblinbear ,
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It doesn’t make a difference what part of the market a business lies in, it’s still a competitive market

JayDee , in Confession time

The one who vomited, did so such that his steaks would be affected

Semi-Hemi-Demigod , in Confession time
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I optimize my pattern for minimal direction changes, which saves me 3-5% on the time it takes to mow

OboTheHobo , in I like a good UX

I do find it a bit odd to monetize a client for a service which is 100% free. Not necessarily against it, but it bothers me slightly.

SmoothSurfer ,

It bothers me a lot. Also considering OP and the ones with the same thoughts are using lemmy instead of reddit but still support fucking sync, i realize all of them are hypocrite or just stupid.

Apollo ,

Seems a strange thing to be bothered by to that extent.

“all of them are hypocrite” what is this imaginary group being hypocritical about?

SmoothSurfer ,

We are using lemmy, because its foss, because it doesnt commercialize anything, because its decentralized; if thats not the case for you just use reddit, there is a lot more content over there.

Sync is making money over fediverse, closed source, and collects data. So now, can you see the point?

Apollo ,

Fuck right off with the gatekeeping you melt of a man child.

You are using lemmy because it’s FOSS, because it doesn’t commercialise anything, because its decentralised.

s_s ,

I pay proton to use their webmail service, even though email is a free service.

I pay to register a domain name even though typing URLs into a browser are free.

I pay to host my website even though visiting websites is free.

Right?

h3mlocke , in I like the web app more.

Boring.

spikespaz ,

But the comments aren’t. They’re spot on. Lots of voting happening on my end, in favor of paying a fair price.

Letstakealook , in My mind is deteriating but im triumphant

I swear, my discord experience appears to be completely different than everyone else’s.

danieljoeblack ,

Yeah, I hang out on a server run by my friend and it's really chill. Guess it depends on the crowds you frequent

Zoldyck , in I like the web app more.

Not a big fan of the price, but it’s free to use if you want and the app is amazingly smooth.

Also, if you decide to use this app for many years, the one time payment isn’t that bad at all.

Kaosmace ,

Isn’t it a yearly subscription?

Skanky ,

The $20 one-time fee is to remove ads from the “standard” app.

The subscription pricing is for Sync Ultra, which has Cloud backup for settings and some more advanced features in addition to no ads.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9b0747dc-7a02-4ff1-a37d-9843c610bf59.jpeg

gravitas_deficiency , in I don't see anything wrong with how we used to be

Side note: how in the ever loving fuck did the creators of Invader Zim convince the Nickelodeon execs that it was a “kids show” - and not just once, but for two seasons?

grue ,

Are you talking about the same Nickelodeon that showed Ren and Stimpy and Rocko’s Modern Life?

Pinklink , in *Munches on Sandal*

Exactly like pic. One foot this way, the other foot that. I’m a bit of trendsetter, nbd.

JoYo , in Diogenes is the most based person who ever existed, fight me
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Remember when base meant vulgar?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

Valmond , in This is kremlin

Table too smal

lillie , in It's so nice to see them all growing, but this is just the truth, sorry.
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I installed Sync to try it out, and noticed the subscription model for no ads, and for basic features like push notifications and exporting a list of your subscribed communities. $2/month or $100 for a “lifetime” subscription. Immediately uninstalled it, yes it has a beautiful interface but I’ve never been fond of subscription-based apps, especially for FOSS services. A low one-time fee would be acceptable to me, like the $4 fee for Toot! for Mastodon.

The silly thing to me about the subscription is, they say it’s to “cover the monthly running costs”. What running costs do they incur if Lemmy is free and open? I’m genuinely curious, if anyone knows please tell me.

jackpot , in I like the web app more.
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look i dont got much money in the bank but people need to start donating to foss creators cause it’s getting dumb, musescore sold out to ultimate guitar and theyre going to shit cause guess what? no one gave money. the linux distro im using is ome of the biggest jn the world and it barely scrapes 1000 usd a month. when i get a job i’ll start giving money but people seriously need to chip in, im not mad at sync at all i get it

Sharkwellington , in I like a good UX
Kolanaki , in 55% of people will be confused by this picture
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55% of people viewing this image have hurt themselves in confusion.

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