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TangledHyphae , in Big scared

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.

Liz ,

Is that the “lay with another man” bit? I’m pretty sure there’s arguments over the original text, and scholars think it originally meant “don’t have sex with little boys” not don’t have sex with men.

TangledHyphae ,

It’s very specific, and it’s in many places across the entire Bible. It’s written with the same concept, in different ways, leaving no room for misinterpretation when you read the entire thing. I just finished the new testament, can confirm it’s spread across that entire thing in different ways too. Here are 3 of them:

Romans 1:26-27 (NIV):

“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV):

“Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NIV):

“We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.”

Liz ,

Not that I actually consider the Bible to be an authoritative source on morality (see: slavery), but are those faithful to the original texts? I only ask because it’s my understanding that sexuality wasn’t viewed as a straight-gay spectrum back then, but instead as a dominate-submissive spectrum. Like, if they were to actually have a problem with same sex acts, it was more to do with messing with the social order than any inherit sexuality problems.

InternetUser2012 ,

Good for you for being a good little boy and following bible. I’m sure you just pick and choose but hey, you do you. I think the bible is a terrible work of fiction used to scare and govern people, therefore, I don’t believe in any of it, so your work of fiction means jack shit to me. Try being a good human, you’ll be less scared and angry.

Draedron ,

How many threads are you wearing? Do you kill your kids when they dont obey you? Think owning slaves is fine as long as they survive a couple days after you beat them?

Cowbee , in Israel’s imminent fate
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Maybe creating an ethno-state wasn’t the best way to prevent genocide after all?

Beaver ,
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  • Cowbee ,
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    Genocide justifying Zionism

    Lemmy.ca

    About what I expected.

    Beaver ,
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    The genocide needs to stop. Support BDS and No Thanks.

    I’m just talking about history context.

    davel ,
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    The historical context is Western settler-colonialism.

    toastboy79 ,

    That's a fair take, put yourself in that timeframe. WW2 just ended, you're one of the world leaders and you learned all about the "final solution".

    what do you do? how do you prevent another genocide of the Jews?

    5C5C5C ,

    Give them sanctuary with protected status in your own country rather than driving other people out of some other country.

    toastboy79 ,

    Bit of an idealistic answer but I like it.

    Points for consideration, there were a handful of ships full of Jews during WW2 seeking asylum. It's widely believed that world leaders knew of or suspected that the Holocaust was murdering Jews around the time those boats were rejected for asylum.

    Additionally, even after people knew the details of the Holocaust people still didn't really like Jews.

    how would you account for those points?

    also thank you for engaging with me on this. I'm genuinely enjoying our conversation!

    5C5C5C ,

    Everything you’re saying really just supports the fact that the nations of the time were handling the situation in a wildly immoral way, and the creation of Israel as an ethnostate was part and parcel of that immorality, and remains highly consequential to this date.

    There’s no point asking me as an individual how I would personally have solved the crisis if I could travel back in time, because one person can’t unilaterally force a nation to do anything without being a dictator, and people don’t become dictators without doing horrible things.

    What matters is recognizing that the Israel of today came to exist out of two factors:

    1. Wealthy and influential Zionists wanted to claim Palestinian land by any means possible to further enrich themselves.
    2. Other nations wanted somewhere to send as many Jewish people as possible because they were antisemitic and didn’t like refugees.

    Now we’re stuck dealing with the consequences of our idiot racist ancestors. Let’s just try our best to not be overtly idiotic or racist ourselves (racist, for example, by turning a blind eye to the genocide happening to Palestinians, as if they’re not even human beings, or idiotic by thinking that there’s any justification for Israel’s insanely disproportionate use of force).

    Just to be clear, I’m not accusing you specifically of being racist or idiotic, I’m just describing my general position on things.

    davel ,
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    There’s no point asking me as an individual how I would personally have solved the crisis if I could travel back in time

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3f42dc10-a5be-4641-8778-c3df0b6b7238.jpeg

    toastboy79 ,

    It won't solve the problems of today but sometimes it can be interesting to see what people of today think for problems and crisises of yesterday. I was in model UN and that was a fairly frequent conference idea.

    I also enjoy talking to people because it's easy for us to say "that's a colonialist action" and even though it's true the question becomes (for me) 'alright how could we have done better' and discussing that thought experiment

    and I appreciate the call-out, I definitely didn't assume you were calling me one.

    Maybe for a better question we ask "what could I have done as Winston Churchill or (I think it was) Truman." While they were singular people they did give the diplomats their marching orders when it came to the peace resolutions.

    5C5C5C ,

    “what could I have done as Winston Churchill or (I think it was) Truman.”

    These people were influential but did not have unilateral power. In their position I would have tried to establish refuge for Jewish people and grant them protective status. Then because of how racist and dumb society was, I would have lost my political position and my influence.

    toastboy79 ,

    Mmm that's a pretty fair point. Even back then being the President that ended a war only got you so much political good will in the States. Not sure how it worked for Churchill.

    I kinda wonder what if any good solutions there were for this. Doing the moral thing but losing your job doing it and potentially seeing the work you did undone by your successor would suck hella bad.

    Well thank you for indulging my questions this has been really fun chatting with you!

    stewie3128 ,

    Churchill lost re-election because he made a really tone-deaf radio address on Labour’s plans for socialized medicine, national insurance, and nationalisation of utilities and critical industries (all of which the overwhelming majority of the country wanted), basically calling them communism, said it would require a “gestapo” to implement, and he wouldn’t stand for it.

    Clement Atlee more or less thanked him for that speech the next day, and assumed the Prime Minister role after the Tories were absolutely trounced in the 1945 election.

    Atlee lasted 6 years. Labour ran the show with a huge majority for a full five year term, then got an unworkably small majority of 5 seats in 1950. Snap election was called in 1951, and Conservatives retook the majority, despite Labour getting 48.8% of the vote, and Conservatives only getting 48.0%.

    …Funny how that keeps happening.

    Churchill resumed the role of Prime Minister until he retired in 1955.

    toastboy79 ,

    Nifty!

    Thank you for the history lesson I actually had no idea that's how that all went down.

    Omniraptor , (edited )

    Why did they still lose, was it like a gerrymandering thing?

    stewie3128 ,

    It wasn’t (maybe still isn’t?) a strictly proportional representation system, so the urban areas get slightly fewer members per vote. More equal than the Electoral College, but still imbalanced in favor of the rural areas where wealthy people have huge estates that have been handed down for generations.

    dubyakay ,

    Zionism did not start with WW2. Nor the migration of jews to Mandatory Palestine.

    toastboy79 ,

    I'm aware of this fact. thanks.

    davel ,
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    Beaver ,
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    While I agree the liberals are problematic currently on Palestine, Zionists and fascists will not divide and conquer Canada.

    Cowbee ,
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    Alright, cleaned up take at least

    Pilferjinx ,

    Yeah, our government has been an absolute joke lately. We do have our fair share of neo nazis but that incident was pure incompetence.

    Codemancer , in AI will capture carbon through reverse buzzwordolysis

    I mean the ibm 1401 used ~13,000 Watts so power hungry is just the way it starts.

    ArtVandelay , in AI will capture carbon through reverse buzzwordolysis
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    Purchase more carbon credits

    Indulgences never really went away did they

    pelotron OP ,
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    :o

    frezik ,

    Unlike purchasing things for imaginary gods, carbon credits could work in theory. At least well enough to be part of the solution. That is, if they were properly regulated around strategies that actually absorb carbon and everyone is forced to be honest and transparent.

    Which none of them do, of course.

    BlastboomStrice , in AI will capture carbon through reverse buzzwordolysis
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    A simple trick would be to stop the wars

    FireRetardant , in AI will capture carbon through reverse buzzwordolysis

    I wonder how much energy google wastes on its AI service in the regular search just to give me a worse answer than the top results I was actually looking for.

    MehBlah , in Echo

    You, you have, you have me Du, du hast, du hast mich

    DudeImMacGyver , in Never forget what they took from us...
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    laughs in GOG

    whodoctor11 , (edited ) in AI will capture carbon through reverse buzzwordolysis
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    Transition to paperless office

    The problem is there is people who say bullshit like this unironically.

    Lotarion ,
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    And it doesn’t even make sense

    99% of a modern office’s correspondence already goes on online, and only the most important stuff gets backed up on paper copies, often because of regulations that are there for a reason

    dislocate_expansion Bot ,

    Seriously. It isn’t helpful towards the environment if we are using so many resources to mine chips and metals and then push it along the internet to then be trained on said AI bots. Would be more sustainable using paper and planting trees smh

    gari_9812 , in I refuse to believe that they made that abomination of a sequel

    Jokes aside, the original quote really hits different nowadays, and I’m not even British 😅

    Binette , in I refuse to believe that they made that abomination of a sequel

    Even if I don’t like the second movie, I do like the theme song for the TV show made for the movie. Really recommend listening to it.

    StaySquared , (edited ) in Big scared

    “We’ll convert your children” www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA

    “We’re here, we’re queer, we’re coming for your children” www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_BfG3xrA5k

    No… it’s definitely not fear. I can promise you that.

    AngryCommieKender , in Echo

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    They do. His name is Zog!

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    Do-do-du-loot-doot-dinna-lunna-loot! Dinnuna-oota-loot!

    RichardHorizon , in What are the chances?

    Which Lemmy client is that?

    Cheradenine ,

    Eternity, the fork of Infinity for reddit.

    That’s one of the default color schemes, but you can customize the colors to anything.

    wallmenis OP ,

    Indeed that is the one. I am too lazy to change the color scheme 😅

    liforra ,
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    Im on the same client, u can imagine how confusing it was clicking the comment button on the image

    Cheradenine ,

    Did you try pressing it harder? That seems to not work for my boss.

    slacktoid ,
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    Eternity gang!!!

    Zerush OP , in When I was young
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