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BeefDaddySupreme ,
@BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world avatar

Ive yet to find a pleasant socialtard online or in person

Gullible OP ,

The ableist language is a bit lazy. Commucyst, soft hankie tankie, socialist justice keyboard warrior. Take your pick.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Wait, did they think ImaQiPi was the head admin?

Gullible OP ,

That was my impression, but I could be wrong. There’s no additional context to draw from, unfortunately. Direct link to the comment on hexbear as their announcement community bars non-hexbear accounts.

hexbear.net/comment/3892334

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Man, that whole thread is just pathetic

Silverseren ,

I was going to ask what the heck racism they're talking about, but I see from the comments here that it's about the Xi Pooh image, the one made by Chinese netizens against their own government.

FaeDrifter ,

Lol what. By that logic, any cartoon caricature made of Biden is racist.

And I bet you $100 the first thing out of their mouths will be, “well you can’t be racist against white people”.

Welllll, it’s true in America that white people systemically benefit from racism and overwhelmgly hold the wealth and political power, so racism isn’t the same against someone like Biden.

Guess who overwhelmingly holds wealth and political power in China? It ain’t the whites.

I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but Hexbear produces bad takes like they’re being compensated to do it.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
@AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social avatar

Lmao by racism they mean Xi Pooh bear memes?

Is this really the line they want to tow?

Gullible OP ,

Toe* and yes.

Nougat ,

You are correct, I wanted to expand on this famous eggcorn.

https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/toe-the-line-vs-tow-the-line/

Mongostein ,

Honestly, tow makes more sense to me. Many people helping to tow a rope, or a line, makes it easier so it would be like saying, “get in line and help out.”

The use of “toe the line”, given this context, is more like, “get in line for competition.”

ThisIsNotHim ,
@ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz avatar

Tow making more sense is a great example of an odd property of eggcorns: They frequently make more sense than the idiom or word they’re replacing.

odium ,

I don’t think of a line as a rope, but a line drawn on the ground. I always imagined toe the line as someone getting closer and closer to a line, strong right next to it, and then just barely push their toes to the other side of the line.

Mongostein ,

I use ropes at work and “line” is commonly used term for a rope or steel wire or whatever you’re hanging or pulling things with.

goat ,

I have decided to change the beloved Xinnie the Pooh into a more palatable version.

yata ,

They don’t really care about the argument, it is just a convenient way for them to accuse others of (non-existant) bigotry in an attempt to silence criticism.

Their MO is exactly like the fascists (or anti-semites as Sartre described them), they don’t really care about words or actual arguments. The goal is to win by any means necessary.

yuri ,

their MO is also completely indiscernible from the far right and shitty out of touch boomers. it’s remarkable they think they’re getting anything done. it’s like a leopards ate my face situation, but they ARE the leopards and they’re eating their own faces.

GregorGizeh ,

Normally, people learn very early in life that aggressive confrontation isn’t the way to win over someone to your beliefs. All it does is make them dismiss what you have to say out of principle and spite. Throw in a weird amount of great leader worship and war crime waiving and you have the average hexgrad user

Shihali ,

Sometime in the 2010s – maybe the 2000s but it got a lot bigger in the 2010s – a lot of progressives got the idea that being right gave them a license to be as rude as they liked that did not extend to their opponents. It might have come from reasonable ideas like “I should get to be as rude as the dominant group is” and “if white nationalists are finding success by being crude, we should try too”, but like all too many progressive ideas it became a way to vent their spleen and fight for social standing among progressive friends.

GregorGizeh ,

Yeah it’s really annoying. I even subscribe to many goals of socialism myself, but idolizing two of the most morally bankrupt and dystopian countries this planet has to offer and shitting on anyone who raises an eyebrow is not the way to get there.

If anything the west must create its own flavor of socially liberal socialism with a reasonable amount of commerce and the market, to preserve and capitalize on its core values of equality and freedom. A counterweight to authoritarian right wing overtures all over the world, often even instigated by russian trollfarms.

Shihali ,

Sweden was rather like that until 30 years ago, but had a financial crisis and ran out of money to support its welfare system. That’s always the problem, isn’t it?

I don’t have any bright new ideas to make a welfare system that provides as much as people want while being cheap enough to afford during a financial crash. But I hope whoever does gets it implemented.

GregorGizeh , (edited )

Well it won’t work in a vacuum and it won’t be for free, but we can’t continue as is either. Capitalism is killing the planet and creating the most jarring inequality this planet has seen since the times of feudal lords.

cacheson ,
@cacheson@kbin.social avatar

Mutualism is a good option. It's a free market, non-capitalist system. Unlike the various flavors of communism, it shouldn't be too alien to those that are used to capitalism.

In general rather than focusing on getting the government to spend money on welfare, we should be removing the elements of the system that transfer wealth from the working class to the capitalist class.

CancerMancer ,

Big agree, welfare wouldn’t cost nearly as much if people actually got their fair share of the pie.

SeaJ ,

Depends. Being pleasant to Nazis, for instance, is a waste of energy.

goat ,

Can’t reason with someone who doesn’t know reason.

lescher ,

There is that famous black man Daryl Davis that converted over 200 KKK members by being nice to them and talking to them. Dont dismiss it outright

Gullible OP ,

I’m not trying to be rude, but the sum total of all of the charm of everyone in this post’s comments wouldn’t even approach the charisma of Daryl Davis. By and large, attempting to copy Daryl Davis’s example is a terrible decision. Incredible guy.

CancerMancer ,

The lesson here is not that you personally have the power to do this, but that it’s possible at all. Many communities have something or someone they don’t like collectively, but individually they will make peace. A person is smart, people are dumb.

Gullible OP , (edited )

I just really, really wanted to stress that going about it without training is a terrifying proposition that may get you killed. If I save someone from a beating borne of optimism rather than skill, it’d keep my mind at ease.

Edit: a comment because I am big dumb.

cacheson ,
@cacheson@kbin.social avatar

Tolerance is a peace treaty.

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