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SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

AUR. If it doesn’t exist on AUR (very unlikely, but happens something), I make a package for it.

On non-arch distros, I often use LURE.

Itdidnttrickledown ,

People spend a lot of time on this one. It must suck to be losing to snap.

Moah ,
@Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Download the sources and build it, like Kernighan & Richie intended.

aesthelete ,

I hate fucking snap. It might be enough to make me switch distros if Ubuntu keeps up with it (which I am sure they intend to).

The continual “you have new snaps” or whatever it was message every time I’m just trying to have a web browser open made me eventually figure out how to install firefox for real on all of my computers.

InverseParallax ,

Try debian, they improved so much over the past decade, they’re a better Ubuntu than Ubuntu now without any bullshit.

InverseParallax ,

Make a script to extract it to /opt/local and make a symlink.

You’ll end up using it so much and it’s an easier upgrade on your terms.

hperrin ,

The Firefox snap was the reason I left Ubuntu. (Or, the last straw, at least.) Fedora has been wonderful.

possiblylinux127 ,

No one uses app image anymore

lattrommi , (edited )
@lattrommi@lemmy.ml avatar

this is probably an edge case but I do when i visit family and friends. these trips are short and infrequent enough that a laptop would be an unnecessary expense and i’m not driving through mountainous areas with my tower. none of them use linux. most have aged windows or mac machines. they don’t care if i run a live system or puppy linux from a USB drive. i add a handful of appimages i’ll use at night or if there’s free time. I’m sure there are better ways but it works for me.

Kusimulkku ,

If it works for you then it works, no need to switch it up. I guess one other way of doing it would be a persistent install on that USB.

ma1w4re ,

Build from source

Unyieldingly ,

LFS Ftw!

cley_faye ,

Native package manager > Native binaries > AppImage > Flatpak.

Yes, snap isn’t even on the scale.

possiblylinux127 ,

App images are a very Windows way to do things. They bundle everything so they are big

Samueru ,

Isn’t the gnome runtime alone 2GiB? You how many appimages that is?

Not to mention you are unlikely to only use one runtime.

Kusimulkku ,

Then again, loads of apps share that runtime. And if other runtimes have same stuff as that GNOME runtime, the shared parts are on your disk only once. It’s pretty smart in how it works.

InverseParallax ,

They are windows, but the linux version of dll-hell across distros and distro versions makes windows dll hell look quaint.

If someone had addressed that better it would be one thing, but binary interoperability is infinitely broken, so app image is actually an improvement.

Kusimulkku ,

Not a fan of AppImages myself. For an universal format it has surprising amount of issues with different distros, in my experience. And the whole Windows style “go to a website, download the AppImage, if you want to update it, go to the web page again and download it again” is one thing I wanted to get away from. At least they don’t come with install wizards, that clicking through menus thing was a pain.

For one off stuff I run once and never need again, AppImage is alright. But not being built-in with sandboxing, repos, all that stuff, it just seems like a step back.

corsicanguppy ,

And the last three aren’t even an option in the enterprise unless your CTO is 24.

SpaceNoodle ,

Native binaries

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Snap

possiblylinux127 ,

Snap’d

pmc ,

I try my hand at packaging it for my distro.

AllHailTheSheep ,

the hero we need

PrimeErective ,

For some reason the first time I read it, I thought it was an “L” so now I always call them “Apple mages”

gencha ,

OCI

299792458ms OP ,

What is that?

MajorHavoc ,

They probably mean Open Container Initiative (OCI), the protocol shared by Podman and Docker.

299792458ms OP ,

ty

InverseParallax ,

Wow, this escalated quickly.

HouseWolf ,

AUR or flatpak.

Honestly the longer I spend daily driving Linux the more I enjoy using flatpaks…

alsaaas ,
@alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

as it should be, nobody likes proprietary vendor-locked formats that get shoved down your throat

9point6 ,

Wow a reference to those Mac Vs PC ads from like 15 years ago

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They stopped that ad campaign about 15 years ago, and they started it closer to 20 years ago.

Jessica ,

I am fairly certain the original version of this meme has red shirt saying Linux and getting beat up

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