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Help, no session?!

I just installed a cisco vpn. And after installing some required libraries I got the option to get rid of “unused” libraries. So I did ‘sudo apt autoremove’ as suggested. After I rebooted I no longer have a either x11 or wayland in the drop down menu. I can no longer login via the GUI.

Running latest Debian.

Where did I go wrong? Any immediate help appreciated 🙏

Edit: The Cisco VPN required me to download libkit2gtk-4.0-dev if that has anything to do with it?

Nobilmantis ,
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folkrav ,

You learned the hard way to always check what’s going to be removed when using autoremove didn’t ya. I did too, years ago. Must have been on Hardy Heron. It’s a mistake you only make once… 😬

The solutions given by other people seem good enough. Reinstalling your Desktop Environment (in Ubuntu’s case, Gnome) should fix it. But it’s not all too clear what else you may have removed alongside.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Yeah man… Was really silly of me thinking back at it… I saw a big list of this, thought to myswlf “oh that’s odd…” and proceeded the action… Big silly. So yeah hopefully an immutable system will also help against this and make me follow standards a bit better 😅

Minty95 ,

Though to late to help you, when you get it working again, install Timeshift, so that instead of faffing around to try and suss out what went wrong, you just start timeshift – restore from the console and a couple of minutes later you’ll have your working setup back. It’s saved my bacon quite a few times in the last couple of years, especially when you can’t login to your DE.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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This is great, I’ve been far to lazy with backup solutions. Time shift is duly noted 📝

Ramin_HAL9001 , (edited )

See if you can just re-install a desktop environment. Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome (or maybe cinnamon-desktop-environment, whichever you prefer). Then reboot, see if that does anything.

Guenther_Amanita ,

I recommend checking out Fedora Silverblue and other immutable distros, or, at least, use more containerization like Flatpak and Distrobox.

When the programs are all in their own small environment, they at least don’t affect the base system like deleting the DE or other important packages.

But, in your case, try switching to tty (CTRL + ALT + F2) and installing the DE base (e.g. gnome-desktop). This will co-install all other dependencies, like X11.

Remember to always backup everything and reading thoroughly when using sudo in the future. And, maybe, check out the tips from my first paragraph :)

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Yeah I’m thinking about getting OpenSuse Slowroll!

richardisaguy ,
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Good choice, but remember to always containerize things, use flatpak and distrobox when possible, opensuse is excellent as a base distro to build your setup on top of, but i wouldnt say so much to actually be your setup. Opensuse user speaking

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Thanks yeah! What do you do when there isn’t a flatpak available for what you need?

I my case I needed Ciso Anyconnect for Uni VPN.

richardisaguy ,
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I would try using it inside an archlinux distrobox, and install using yay or some other aur helper

ipacialsection , (edited )
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Whenever you install or remove software, be sure to read through what’s being removed. You don’t want to accidentally uninstall something important. This is very unlikely to happen with official Debian packages, but you should be especially careful when installing packages outside of Debian’s repo, as they may not be fully compatible with your version of Debian.

In any case, I’d log in to a tty (ctrl-alt-any function key) and install whichever desktop environment you had before using apt.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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But rather crazy that one “recommend” command from debian would do this? I’m still q bit new to the Desktop world of Linux.

skullgiver ,
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Which Debian guide did you follow?

You can reinstall Gnome with sudo apt install gnome-desktop. If you want a better overview of what’s going on, you may want to install aptitude and sudo aptitude install the conflicting packages.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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For when I downloaded Debian? I just went to their homepage and got the latest bookworm.

Spider89 ,

Live disk? or CD iso?

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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ISO and then format over to usb with Etcher 👍

Spider89 ,

What Desktop Enviroment did you install?

Try: sudo apt install tasksel && sudo tasksel

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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I’m a KDE kinda guy. Also for some reason not allowed to connect to WiFi anymore(via Terminal) … Been troubleshooting this for too long now. Just gonna get OpenSuse on this machine instead me thinks.

skullgiver ,
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A reinstall may be a good idea, it sounds like you also removed a bunch of other components.

You may want to consider using something like timeshift in the future. That way you can roll back your OS to a previous version right from the Grub menu when you accidentally change your system in some catastrophic way. It’s a bit like System Restore in Windows, though Linux doesn’t have something as automated and comprehensive yet.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Yeah that’s something I’ll setup this time! ✨

Is Timeshift equally relevant on OpenSuse Tumbleweed? Or is it Snapper I should use instead?

skullgiver ,
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I’ve never tried OpenSuse, but there seems to be a package for it.

The Snapper website seems to indicate that ext4 support is deprecated so if you’re going to use ext4 I’d pick Timeshift. I don’t know enough about Snapper to make a confident suggestion for you, though.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Cool, thanks 😊

Vilian ,

linux distros assume that the your know what they are doing, so it show what it gonna do, and do it if the user say yes, even if it removing the entire system, because some users do that(removing and installing other system) so always be careful, especially with sudo commands, that why they ask for password, terminal is a powerfull tool, that why you can’t runs these commands from GUI

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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I’m assuming I need to reconfigure my desk opt environment too?

sem , (edited )
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Try to switch to console (ctr alt f2) and run xsession via startx. Or just try to install some meta package from console, like gnome-desktop

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Startx just gives me a straight black screen, no cursor or nothing.

Limitless_screaming ,
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Try reinstalling the DE as someone else has suggested.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Got network issues after the reboot too, so can’t install anything atm… 😅

hottari ,

You clearly have borked your system. Save whatever data you still need and do a fresh install.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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Yeah I really have… Kinda crazy to me that it can happen so quickly haha, but yiu live and you learn. Luckily I always have my important stuff in the cloud.

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