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lordgoose ,

I have an NVIDIA 1060 and it is such a pain in the ass to deal with. The number of random problems I’ve had with it has put me off from ever buying a computer with NVIDIA hardware ever again. Save yourself the constant walking on eggshells and get AMD.

zod000 ,

I have used an GTX 3070 with no issues for the past 3.5 years, before that I used an AMD Vega 64 with no issues. I think if I were buying a new card and could stomach the prices I’d lean towards a Radeon 7900 XTX.

hellvolution , (edited )
@hellvolution@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Pick one that fits your bills! Usually, AMD ones have more VRAM for the same price compared to Nvidia… I use Nvidia here (Asus tuf rtx3080 with 12GB VRAM), but I’d use an AMD one without problems too, if I had one…

Just avoid Intel Arc right now!!!

PS: if you need CUDA, you’ll have to use Nvidia

TrivialBetaState ,

well…

https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/c7bf5f4c-a04e-4dca-9516-53bf891a3e40.png

festus ,

For gaming and desktop use, I’ve had a flawless experience using AMD cards and a decent time with NVIDIA. The only reason I’m with NVIDIA now is for the AI capabilities (don’t bother trying to run stuff using AMD’s ROCm - it’s near impossible to install).

trougnouf ,

PyTorch actually works pretty well on Arch with opencl-amd and opencl-amd-dev (the official packages didn’t work for me). I’m extremely happy with my new Radeon.

mhz ,

I had a gtx1060 when I started using linux, then upgraded to 2060 then again to 2080, they all worked fine without any major problem (except that file system checking at boot sometimes and wayland). Last year I upgraded to RX6800 and man everything just works, no more filesystem checks at boot, Wayland is mu way to go now.

If I have a nvidia card now I would just use, but if I’m buying a new/used gpu it will definitely be AMD.

luciferofastora ,

The file system check at boot thing is a symptom of NVIDIA? I was wondering about that, but kept forgetting to look into it. Thanks for saving me time :D

iloverocks ,

I bought a Rx 5700xt for 190€ in Germany this was 4 month’s ago

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ll sometimee switch to Windows to play specific games as well.

That is probably the best answer. Linux is a serious POSIX compliant UNIX like operating system. Gaming on Linux is pretty much an afterthought, with game studios not producing native Linux ports. Last I saw was Starsiege Tribes II, which while they made a native port, they let it languish and die. Most of the games out there will require Proton (A version of Wine) or similar. While that trick can get many games to play on Linux, usually it is not supported by the game studio that made the game, which is less than fun when games games end up having issues. Worse, games running ainti-cheat can mistake that fake windows environment as a hacked system designed to try and cheat the game, which can get you irreversibly banned from such a game. Not worth the risk. Finally, when issues with this compatibility wedge come up, and they will sooner or later, often gamers, such as yourself, take to blaming Linux, instead of the gaming studios or the compatibility wedge, making Linux look bad to others and hinders Linux desktop adoption rates. Do everyone yourself and Linux a favor and just run the games where they were made to be played, Windows… unless it’s a native Linux port or even better, was written for Linux from the start.

trougnouf ,

I haven’t had an issue with gaming on Linux in ages. Since the Steam Deck came out checking the compatibility of a game is an afterthought I do not need to worry about.

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s encouraging to hear. It wasn’t always like that.

Imhotep ,

STOP recommending Intel Arc for Linux, people. Do any of you saying that even own one?

Pharceface , (edited )

AMD, easily. Its literally plug and play. You can even pick some second hand options for cheap that are still solid for gaming such as the vega 56/64 and the RX 5700XT (which is I use). Intel isn’t bad so long as you’re not playing the newest stuff, my Arc a750 is solid in games like Fallout 4 and Elden Ring. Starfield is complete mess on it. Another thing with Intel is you’ll need a distro with a 6+ kernel to get the most out of it.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Literally Intel or AMD. You may pick Intel dGPU as well.

Imhotep ,

Intel dGPU

That’s not the best idea. Performances are not even close of what they are on Windows
Also there’s an idle power draw issue which can sometimes be fixed on windows but not on linux

uis , (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not the best idea. Performances are not even close of what they are on Windows

Personal experience or rumors? First link I found says it’s slightly(4%) better than on windows.

Also there’s an idle power draw issue which can sometimes be fixed on windows but not on linux

Can you share how to fix it? What to write in which registers?

Upd: just set scaling governor to powersave, lol

Imhotep ,

Your link is for an iGPU

Here for Intel Arc

From January but it hasn’t improved all that much

The fix for power consumption is changing a setting for ASPM in motherboard (if it supports it) and pluging the monitor in the motherboard directly. It worked for me on windows but not on linux (no workaround AFAIK) This means 40W idling instead of 1W

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

You need CONFIG_PCIEASPM in kernel for ASPM support

Floey ,

I have a 2070 super that I use for gaming and tensor stuff. So far no problems with Arch, X11, and i3. I don’t really have brand loyalty though, when I last bought a graphics card I just considered what was going to be best for my price point.

Nibodhika ,

Short answer: AMD

Long answer: AMD used to be very bad, NVIDIA has always been the same, i.e. if you’re willing to use proprietary drivers it works, but it has some hiccups. A while back AMD open source their drivers so the game turned around, nowadays they’re very easy and compatible from what I’ve heard. I’ve used NVIDIA for over a decade, but my next card Winn be AMD for sure.

PS: if you’re still in doubt, the latest Linux kernel purposefully broke the NVIDIA proprietary driver because NVIDIA has been copyright infringing the Linux kernel by using functions that are considered so integral to the kernel that if you have to use them you work should be considered derivative and be bounded by GPL licence.

pinchcramp ,
@pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

if you’re willing to use proprietary drivers it works, but it has some hiccups

Do you know if nvidia still has issues with Wayland or are nvidia and MAD on par nowadays in that area?

ozymandias117 ,

The only way nVidia works well with Wayland is with nouveau

Their proprietary drivers still don’t work. They announced plans to make them work better, but they haven’t put in the work to merge them yet

pinchcramp ,
@pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Sounds like currently AMD is a safer bet if one was in the market for a new card.

Thanks for your answer.

Nibodhika ,

Last I tried it didn’t worked, however last I told Reddit/Lemmy that NVIDIA didn’t worked on Wayland I was downvoted to hell and told it obviously worked and had worked for a long time. So in theory it works, but I was never able to get it to work and I have given up trying until I get an AMD card.

zhenyapav ,

To add to the AMD part, RDNA3 drivers were actually quite bad at launch, I think they were mostly fixed only by April-May 2023. Now they work great. Also, if you’re interested in AI, stick with Nvidia. You can run most stuff on AMD cards, but it’s always an issue (The main one I’m having is that a lot of stuff depends on torch 2.0, while there’s only 2.1 for ROCm 5.5+)

uis , (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

A while back AMD open source their drivers

No, they abandoned their proprietary driver and joined development of existing mesa driver. Basically as if Nvidia joined nouveau.

if you’re willing to use proprietary drivers it works, but it has some hiccups.

Pre-Pascal GPUs aren’t supported by closed source driver, so your only option there is nouveau.

Nibodhika ,

He’s asking to buy a new one, so old cards not working is not really an issue. But are you sure about the Turing line (i.e. 20 series)? I thought the Maxwell (i.e. 7 series) was the oldest you can use on the proprietary drivers. In fact up until recently I had a 1080 that I used with the proprietary drivers.

uis , (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Oops. Pre-Pascal? The one after Maxwell.

Also Maxwell AFAIK only 750, 700-780 except 750 are Kepler.

lonewalk ,

I just swapped from NVidia to AMD, since Proton was not working under NVidia for Starfield at launch (and I’ve generally been unhappy using NVidia for a while).

I can finally also use things like Wayland where NVidia just doesn’t support it well enough to be a good option (e.g., weird issues with full disk encryption unlock screen, no night light support)

I know CUDA and productivity apps might push you in the other direction, but if your main priority is gaming, I suspect AMD will be nicer. My first impressions is that it plays way better with Linux and reduces headaches that shouldn’t exist but you’ll deal with under Nvidia.

Rogueren ,
@Rogueren@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

AMD is generally better

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