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Alright, you know what? I'll be switching.

Hello there. I'm a beginner so keep that in mind. I have an old laptop (something like 10 yo). It has an HDD, 4 gigs of DDR3, an i3 4th gen 1.7
GHz and an NVidia Geforce 710M (Windows Game Ready Driver 391.35 WHQL which I think doesn't support Wayland). It also has CSM BIOS so yeah. It has the option of UEFI but the GeForce (I think) doesn't support it.

Currently, it has Windows 10 on it, but it has been veeeeery sluggish. I'm planning to upgrade the RAM to 8 gigs and upgrade to an SSD, but (even if I upgrade those parts) I don't want to use Windows anymore, at all.

So, I have a few options. (kinda in order)

Linux Mint
Fedora, though idk if the 2 GHz requirement is a big problem
Pop!_OS
MX Linux
Debian
Ubuntu and its flavors
Zorin OS
and maybe Solus? though the same problem with fedora.

Yeah yeah ik, all of these except Fedora and Solus are Debian/Ubuntu based.

DE options: (again, also kinda in order)

KDE Plasma (love the looks of it, though is my hardware enough?)
Cinnamon
XFCE - LXDE - LXQT (because of "lightweightness" :D)
Budgie
5. GNOME too heavy
These are some options for me. If you have any more suggestions, let me know. Also, are there any compatibility issues with my system for the distros/DEs?

Thanks for the replies in advance.

(Note: this was also posted in the m/[email protected] magazine and the r/linux4noobs subreddit. don't ask why im still on reddit, it's because of Infinity for reddit.)

(Another note: If you saw this post before, it's because of /kbin's issues. I reposted it because no one saw it before.)

valentino ,

Lets fucking go. Definitely try the three OG desktops Gnome, KDE and Xfce. The first two are the biggest ones with tons of features and a big development team. Also KDE has a memory print thats as low as Xfce which is the lightest.

noundus ,

I strongly recommend XFCE if you can’t upgrade. It’s the snappiest of the easy DEs, and on a 10yo laptop, I suspect you’ll notice. LXQT is half a tier more difficult, depending on how much you want to tweak the work flow.

If for some reason XFCE is still too heavy and slow, you can go lighter than LXQT without giving yourself a headache, but the only true beginner openbox distro I know of is Mabox, and you seem to prefer point release distros.

Edit: You know what though? Try KDE first; if it’s fast enough for you, great!

s20 ,

As a complete Linux noob coming from Windows, I’d say Mint is the way to go. If you’re worried about Cinnamon being too heavy, Mate is much lighter and a lot of fun. I’m especially fond of their file browser Caja.

Your second choice, Fedora, is my go to system, and I’ll cheerfully sing it’s praises. If you want to go that way, check out the KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, or LXDE spins, but I will say it’s a bit less beginner friendly. Make sure you enable the non-free repositories when you log in for the first time!

Contort3860 ,
@Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org avatar

Mint has an XFCE version as well, last I checked. So if Mate is too much then XFCE is there on Mint as well.

gonzoknowsdotcom1 ,

VanillaOS check it out

s20 ,

I love Vanilla too, but if he’s concerned Gnome is to heavy for his laptop…

gonzoknowsdotcom1 ,

I’ve overlooked that by accident, hopefully with there 2.0v coming soon they release more flavors

s20 ,

They’re talking about a possible KDE spin, but last I saw it was a low priority. Since all the custom GUI tools ate being made in GTK4. In order to do up KDE the way they’re doing Gnome and keeping the desktop as “vanilla” as possible, it would be a pretty big job converting all that stuff to QT I would think.

gonzoknowsdotcom1 ,

Yea that’s true, gtk4 is exciting as well as android containers

s20 ,

I’m looking forward to playing with a Nix container. I honestly can’t think of a single Android app I want to run on my desktop… But it’s gonna be fun for you!

gonzoknowsdotcom1 ,

I completely forgot about the NIX one

Moobythegoldensock ,

Kubuntu if you want KDE. Your hardware should run it fine. Mint XFCE or Xubuntu if you want to optimize for speed.

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Just adding on that if you do go Kubuntu, OP, get the LTS 22.04 version. Since you’ve got older hardware there’s really not much point in using newer kernels. Ubuntu LTS (and therefore Mint, since it’s based on it) is just rock solid in the “just works” category as long as your hardware isn’t super new.

Nicbudd ,

Linux Mint with XFCE is what I’d go with

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

Ubuntu is SLOW on a HDD (has to do with the packaging format they use), I’d personally recommend trying fedora 1st and if that’s also too slow, MXLinux is great. Solus recently got revived, but it’s still got issues so I can’t really recommend it for a 1st distro… And finally, if even MX doesn’t run perfectly, try AntiX, the best Linux distro for really low-end PCs imo.

Lucia ,
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

I’d personally recommend trying fedora 1st

Fedora is even slower though. In my experience Fedora on hdd loads as slow as win10. MX is great though, as well as antiX

DaPorkchop_ ,

i’ve taken to running apt inside eatmydata, makes it run way faster since it doesn’t call fsync constantly. granted, you could end up in an invalid state if the power goes out, but that’s what UPSs, laptop batteries and backups are for :)

Sucuk OP ,
@Sucuk@kbin.social avatar

Well uhhhhhhh, when my "laptop"s plug is pulled out or the power goes out, it's dead :D. might need a battery change or an ups...

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Definitely get a battery change. Lithium batteries that old can become dangerous and even explode.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I’d personally recommend Linux Mint with XFCE or Cinnamon. XFCE with the Suse style is light and has a built-in search on the start menu, which I consider a must-have.

Mint in general should offer the least amount of resistance for getting everything up and running, including the graphic driver.

Marduk73 ,
@Marduk73@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mint/Cinnamon is easy and a good transitional experience. Whatever you choose, don’t forget to donate whatever you can afford and think is appropriate. That helps keep these things available. GL

plactagonic ,

Just try few of these from live usb and pick what you like.

You can use Ventoy and just drag all your ISO images to it but creating few USBs is easiest option for beginners.

There is nothing bad about Debian/Debian based distros and I think that it is great option I started on Mint, tryed Manjaro and get back to Mint.

Lucia , (edited )
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

So, I have a few options. (kinda in order)

Linux Mint is the easiest one from the list, but all of them except Solus are fine. I personally recommend Mint or Debian, Debian Sid if you want latest kernel.

KDE Plasma (love the looks of it, though is my hardware enough?)

KDE should work fine, maybe with a bit of tweaking?

XFCE - LXDE - LXQT (because of “lightweightness”)

I daily drive Xfce and even on a beefy PC this DE is really great. It may not look cool by default, but it’s very customizable and powerful. And Thunar (xfce file manager) is really good now.

Cinnamon

Another good option

it’s because of Infinity for reddit.

There’s a fork of infinity for Lemmy, called Eternity. Not sure if it’s usable now though.

SaveComengs ,

eternity is amazing and works really well, I’ve had no issues so far

Lucia ,
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

Good to know! I will also check it out soon. Infinity was my only reason to use reddit actually.

baconicsynergy ,

I’m using Eternity too and its fsntastic

wildbus8979 ,

if you want latest kernel.

I doubt they need the latest kernel, their machine is ancient…

Eternity

FIFY

Lucia ,
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

I doubt they need the latest kernel, their machine is ancient…

True

FIFY

Thanks, somehow messed it up.

rambos ,

Linux Mint is the easiest one from the list

I have to try mint, so many people recommend it and its hard to believe something can be easier than popos

Lucia ,
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

Mint is great, my brother used it as his first distro and had no issues whatsoever while I suffered with Fedora.

Sucuk OP ,
@Sucuk@kbin.social avatar

Linux Mint is the easiest one from the list, but all of them except Solus are fine. I personally recommend Mint or Debian, Debian Sid if you want latest kernel.

No, I don't really need it.

KDE should work fine, maybe with a bit of tweaking?

I thought about that too. If that doesn't work out, Xfce/LXDE/LXQT it is.

Lucia ,
@Lucia@eviltoast.org avatar

Cool. Good luck on your linux journey!

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Try Mint Cinnamon, if that’s slow try disabling animations. If it’s still slow, go to XFCE.

Mint really rocks at not requiring you to use the terminal almost ever. For sure the best choice in the “just works” category.

Madiator2011 ,

Go with Pop!_OS you will love it :)

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