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danielfgom ,
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

Use Linux Mint instead. You’ll thank me.

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing to worry about especially if it boots fine and loads your graphical environment. It’s just a grub warning message because grub doesnt play well with (presumably) nvidia. You could probably make some tweaks to remove the error but there’s really no reason to bother.

bingbong ,

Let me guess, you have an Nvidia card?

Harry_h0udini OP ,
@Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

The first two lines seem like they probably came from X, the old standard UI system for *nix. The last line is just saying that your 2nd partition on your 3rd disk was checked with no errors found. This is fine.

Given that the UI then starts up you can ignore these messages. They’re there in case the system fails to start up after that point.

Reva ,

“old”

pipe01 ,

Linux is the old standard kernel for GNU

Reva ,

I will switch to Hurd as soon as it is in a usable state but so far my experiments unfortunately never really worked out.

AffineConnection ,

Because Hurd was disastrously conceived from the very beginning, it can never be more than an unnecessarily inefficient curiosity.

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

X11 doesnt start until after the kernel is loaded.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that’s right.

losttourist ,
@losttourist@kbin.social avatar

GRUB (or any other bootloader) doesn't care about and in fact doesn't even know about X, Wayland, or any other userland GUI system.

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

Okay? These aren’t from the bootloader tho.

Meatplay ,

I had this error several times (also cases where it would not boot afterwards). It usually appears after installing Nvidia drivers.

reflex , (edited )
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

Red Dead Pixel Redemption.

Quereller , (edited )

As it boots fine (and changing into wayland later) I think you can just ignore it.

Edit: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/…/2012181

Harry_h0udini OP ,
@Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

So, its a bug?

DavidGA ,
@DavidGA@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not exactly a bug. It’s just that Linux is extremely verbose and often spits out debug messages for things that are not relevant to your system.

Quereller ,

No, it is a bug (I think) because GRUB should display in native resolution and because of a bug can’t figure it out and displays in 800x600. It is however only cosmetic.

authed ,

Its probably just wrong video mode set as message says… But either way who cares about grub resolution

30p87 ,

It’s all fun and games until you have to repair your system with 1x1 resolution

JustARegularNerd ,

Morse code tty?

30p87 ,

Then just throw your screen and GPU out, for what other reason would we have beepers on mainboards?

jcg ,

Throw the keyboard out too, you can tap with a mouse

EddoWagt ,

Ehh, you could use the power button as well

authed ,

I never seen that on a PC even in CGA monitor times

Harry_h0udini OP ,
@Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Any thoughts

reddit.com/…/ubuntu_2304_grub_error_message_no_su…

ISOmorph ,

According to DDG it’s a Grub issue. There are a couple of things you could try by searching that error message.

ipsirc ,
@ipsirc@lemmy.ml avatar

Avoid *buntu.

dm_me_your_boobs ,

What did I miss? Ubuntu used to be the shit.

iloverocks ,

Ubuntu has gotten worse that it seams to was a few years ago. I didn’t use it outside of servers. Many don’t like the direction that ubuntu goes with snaps. But use whatever distro you want

Welcome to the land of freedom

dm_me_your_boobs ,

Oh right I forgot all about snaps. Yeah I haven’t used it as a dedicated desktop since probably 2006. It’s generally all server usage in the cloud for me these days, which basically means everything is disposable and I couldn’t care less about the full OS in general. I really do need to get back on Linux for personal use though. I don’t really care for running VMs on windows for my self hosted stuff.

CazRaX ,

Since I reinstall Windows (trying different versions just because) as often as I distro hop I just started using different distros in WSL. Let’s me distro hop in both OSes as I want and at the same time without any kind of dual booting problems.

Maestro ,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

Why would anyone use Ubuntu on a server? Ubuntu is basically Debian unstable + non-free drivers that they tried to get sorta stable in 6 months. That may be ok on a desktop where you can accept some bugs in exchange for newer versions of the software. But why would you not run Debian stable on a server instead?

Maybe 10 years ago when Debian stable got really out-of-date, but that hasn't been true in a looong time. Debian releases much more frequently, much stabler, it has all the goid stuff from Ubuntu backported but none if the bad stuff.

Zatujit ,

Plenty of people use Ubuntu LTS on servers

Maestro ,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

That doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do...

AffineConnection ,

Are there any advantages over Debian stable?

nyan ,

It’s always seemed to me that Ubuntu has a pattern of going “Ick, NIH! Let’s replace it!” about some important system component, then giving up on their reimplementation a few years later and moving back to an equivalent mainstream component. Upstart, Unity (third parties have taken over, but Canonical no longer develops it), Mir as an independent display server . . . There are probably more that I’m missing, since it isn’t my distro. But snaps seem to me to be in the first half of that pattern. Probably they’ll give up on the system in five years or so and replace it with Flatpak.

Varyk ,

It’s still good, it’s just popular now so the edgelords hate it.

Laser ,

For me the question is rather, what’s the current raison d’être for Ubuntu if you’re not looking for Debian with paid support?

Granted it’s been long since I’ve used it (I used it from 2005 or so until 2008 when I switched to Arch), but there’s no really appealing quality for me there that I couldn’t have with Debian. Apart from that, Canonical makes questionable decisions – snap, as others have mentioned, a total disaster in my opinion; Mir was another of their misadventures (later retrofitted into a Wayland compositor); upstart didn’t turn out successful (though to give credit, it was an honest attempt at a new init system and lessons were learned); the LXD maintainer issue as of late leaves a sore taste in my mouth, plus they were always very community-unfriendly with their CLAs. And all this for what? Might as well use their upstream instead.

HKayn ,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Ubuntu has the largest community around it, meaning you’ll find help for it the fastest.

Granted, some issues are distro-agnostic, but you can’t always know whether yours is, especially if you are newer to Linux.

Laser ,

Some issues just stem from Ubuntu itself though. Granted those aren’t all and maybe not even a big portion, but they do exist. I had huge issues upgrading Ubuntu back when I used it if Nvidia drivers were installed. On Arch, it was trivial. At work, we have VMs running Ubuntu 20.04 and we were advised not to upgrade because they no longer work correctly after upgrading (these are special VMs not in our company network for testing and stuff under administration of the user with only the initial image rolled out centrally).

I can see why a new user might be attracted to using Ubuntu, and without trying to talk anyone down, my reasoning was more something for educated users who make an informed decision on which distribution to run, which is not something you can ask from a novice.

Also, while I know this isn’t the best metric, Debian currently ranks above Ubuntu on Distrowatch, so interest is there, which is nice; personally I wouldn’t recommend anything Debian based to experienced users but also wouldn’t explicitly warn against Debian either. I think their approach of a distribution is outdated, but they’re a driving force behind some innovations like reproducible builds, so it kind of evens out.

tram1 ,

Fastest help is Archwiki, even if you run Ubuntu…

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Hard false. This is only true for experienced users. For me the Arch wiki is great, for a novice it isn’t.

tram1 ,

I disagree. It’s very detailed and I think it can both help a novice and help a novice become less of a novice.

Diplomjodler ,

They have made quite a few questionable decisions over time and trying to push users into their own packaging format is a big no no for many. Yours is a very dumb take.

Varyk ,

Thanks, edgelord

null ,

Can’t make a coherent counter-argument? Just call them and edgelord!

Varyk ,

Please let me know which brilliant argument your peer has made that so excited you. Is it the vague “questionable decisions”, the “big no no” or that “Yours is a very dumb take?”

null ,

See the other replies that you’ve conveniently ignored for the meat of those decisions.

Varyk ,

I don’t know, sounds inconvenient.

null ,

Yeah, making very dumb takes like yours is much easier.

Varyk ,

Considering your proficiency at dumb takes, I’ll take your word for it.

null ,

“No u”

Wow, so clever.

Best one could expect from a Canonical shill, I guess.

Varyk , (edited )

Thanks, I agree that it was clever, maybe that’s why you had trouble parsing it.

I also appreciate that your best attempt to insult my comment is based on your implication that your own original comment is dumb. Feels good

null ,

I had trouble parsing it?

Varyk ,

No worries.

null ,

The above comment brought to you by Canonical.

Varyk ,

Oh, you’re sponsored?

null ,

Yes you are

Varyk ,

The projection of your insecurities? Seems that way.

null ,

Thanks for admitting that you’re insecure. Must be why you shill for Ubuntu.

Varyk ,

Keep projecting, shill: you’ve talked about canonical and Ubuntu half a dozen times while I’ve referenced Ubuntu once in reply to OP.

null ,

How much do they pay you?

Varyk ,

Who, that company you can’t stop talking about?

That distributes a free product?

You’re the first member of their street teams I’ve met.

zalgotext ,

Ugh, Mom come help, the Redditors got loose again

Varyk ,

Really? You appear to be firmly secured in her basement.

null ,

Oh you’re a member of the street team? Neat! Do they provide you lunch?

Varyk ,

I’m covered, every interaction with you is a free lunch.

null ,

You can do better than that. Try again.

Varyk ,

With you, nobody has to try.

null ,

And yet here you are, all riled up.

Varyk ,

I’m enjoying your struggle

null ,

Why are you struggling?

Varyk ,

You’re projecting so hard you’re going to blind other people.

null ,

You should really stop projecting then, and maybe take a deep breath. We don’t want you blinding anyone!

Varyk ,

Too late, your reading comprehension has vanished completely.

null ,

Now you can’t even read properly? I’m sure there’s some online courses you can take to help with that.

Varyk ,

I’m sure someone can teach you, you just aren’t able to learn.

null ,

Stick with it, you’ll learn eventually.

Varyk ,

You’ll never catch up.

null ,

Aww, sure you will!

Varyk ,

Your aphasia struck again?

Let me help you:

I’m ahead of you. You are lagging.

null ,

Keep at it buddy, you’ll catch up!

Varyk ,

Geez, you have aphasia and dementia.

No loss to anyone, at least.

null ,

Wow, pretty impressive that you’re able to get around with all those ailments!

Varyk ,

It is fun, you being my parrot.

Good work, Polly.

null ,

Now you’re talking to imaginary animals. Uh oh.

Varyk ,

Glad you manage to insult yourself every message. It makes this so much easier.

null ,

I’m glad you’re finally finding this easier. It’s clearly been hard for you to keep up so far.

Varyk ,

You’ve always been easy, Polly.

null ,

It’s the keeping up that’s been hard for you. Of course it’s been easy for you to project your insecurities onto me, it’s all you know!

Varyk ,

Keep squawking, Polly

null ,

Wow, I thought for sure that last one would make it blatantly obvious what I was doing, but nope, the irony is still flying over your head.

Keep at it, sport. You’ll get there.

Varyk ,

Attagirl

null ,

Keep going. It’s funny to watch you struggle.

Varyk ,

Keep squawking

null ,

Adorable. Keep wracking that brain, kiddo.

Varyk ,

Attagirl.

Polly, I appreciate that you think I’m adorable.

null ,

Of course, you’re pretty desperate for anything you can construe as a compliment. Makes sense.

Varyk ,

Makes more sense than you admiring, parroting, and complimenting me.

null ,

Agreed.

ultra ,

They basically force you to use snaps, that’s why it’s not good.

They also have ads in the package manager.

nestEggParrot ,

Umm what ?

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Misinformation.

null ,

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/771ff57b-97de-4ddf-a84f-25b9464aadac.webp

They also show ads in the MotD on Ubuntu server.

So what’s the misinformation again?

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

The interpretation of this line. Calling this “ads in the package manager” is intellectually dishonest in my opinion.

null ,

How is that anything other than an ad in the package manager?

true_blue ,
@true_blue@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

If you want to be nitpicky about it, you could consider it to not be an “ad” because its not a company paying to put that text there. It’s Ubuntu promoting their own product. But I don’t think it makes much of a difference in this case, since it’s a big annoyance either way.

null ,

Yup, that’s pretty nitpicky alright. Requires ignoring the basic definition of “advertisement”.

zalgotext ,

I’m certain Canonical paid someone to put that message there

null ,

Calls facts “misinformation”, refuses to elaborate.

Talk about intellectually dishonest.

ElRenosaurusReg ,
@ElRenosaurusReg@hexbear.net avatar

Forced Snaps is a big one. If you’re not familiar, Snap is Canonical’s proprietary alternative to Appimage and Flatpak. While the Snap Store is open source and can be forked or modified as needed, the backend is completely closed source, which has vexed many members of the Open Source community.

While the distribution itself is currently pretty solid, they’ve made questionable decisions in the past like including an amazon search function in their fork of gnome (Unity). Snap can be removed by a skilled user or someone well versed in search-fu, but their choice to have it installed by default, the be the default for package management, and to inject snaps in place of deb packages when installed via Apt, are all big red-flags given that nobody can see what is in those snaps til they’re installed except for canonical.

NumbersCanBeFun ,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

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    FMT99 ,

    I even put mint on my mom’s pc and she very rarely has any issues. Works for almost everything out of the box.

    squaresinger ,

    It’s the snap-less surpremacy guys.

    waspentalive ,

    I don’t know about anyone else, but, I went from Kubuntu to Debian/KDE because I don’t like seeing all the Snap-fake hard drives in lsblk.

    ratz ,

    Apparently this was a controversial take

    When I first started learning how to Linux long ago everyone recommended Ubuntu… and I had a similar issue to the OP.

    I had to dump the EDID of my monitor from a Windows machine to actually get X to recognise any kind of monitor modes …it was an eye opening experience for a newbie.

    Today, I still dont really like it for other reasons (I’d take Debian over Ubuntu any day). Call me crazy here guys but I think its okay to share an opinion without being called an edgelord for it.

    (I use arch btw 🎩)

    Nicbudd ,

    I’ve had a much easier time on Ubuntu with NVIDIA cards than with other distros. Also, I’m not sure how this is helpful advice to a new user at all.

    the_q ,

    What are your PC specs? Make sure CSM and Secure Boot are disabled in the BIOS.

    BitSound ,

    Did you install Ubuntu alongside Windows, or do a fresh install after wiping?

    Harry_h0udini OP ,
    @Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Its fresh install, no dual boot

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