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So I installed Arch Linux... Is this it?

I’m a little bit underwhelmed, I thought that based off the fact so many people seem to make using this distro their personality I expected… well, more I guess?

Once the basic stuff is set-up, like wifi, a few basic packages, a desktop environment/window manager, and a bit of desktop environment and terminal customisation, then that’s it. Nothing special, just a Linux distribution with less default programs and occasionally having to look up how to install a hardware driver or something if you need to use bluetooth for the first time or something like that.

Am I missing something? How can I make using Arch Linux my personality when once it’s set up it’s just like any other computer?

What exactly is it that people obsess over? The desktop environment and terminal customisation? Setting up NetworkManager with nmcli? Using Vim to edit a .conf file?

rozodru ,
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personally I’m addicted to AUR. I just like going down the rabbit hole on there and seeing what people have.

ssm ,
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Arch is for the most part comparable to Debian unstable/sid, but instead of a normal repository, it instead depends largely on a massive 3rd party repository (the AUR), and for some reason people think that’s a feature.

Blaiz0r ,

In my experience the AUR is useful but almost unnecessary, and if you want to use flatpak you can get away from using the AUR entirely

avidamoeba ,
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Oof, hit them where it hurts 🤕

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

Just do ./install_arch.sh

Mango ,

OP forgot the socks. Classic mistake.

vikingtons ,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

there’s arch socks?

foreverunsure ,

I think they’re referring to the socks you’re supposed to wear when programming :3

vikingtons ,
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o shit I was expecting merch lol

Mango ,

lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

JackbyDev ,

!unixsocks

Mango ,

Oh yeah that’s better.

possiblylinux127 ,

Now use Gentoo

pineapplelover ,

Arch constantly breaks on me. Maybe give it a while.

Andromxda ,
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Skill issue

hand ,
@hand@lemmy.studio avatar

It’s bleeding-edge, so bugs and regressions are going to be there first.

Case in point: there is a bug/issue with the Nvidia drivers now (555) that messes up hibernation/suspend and cause a kernel panic for some.

01011 , (edited )

Arch is too easy to set up nowadays for it to be a “thing”.

Maybe 15 years ago when the process was slightly more complicated but even then it’s always been paint by numbers.

Even Gentoo isn’t that difficult, just time consuming.

ReakDuck ,

I can only use Arch, because I know how I set it up.

Preinstalled distros, even arch based seem overwhelming to me nowadays. I just prefer to set up Arch Linux myself so I know what minimal steps I did and what package I have

AndreTelevise ,

Most who use Arch prefer to use a customized tiling window manager instead of a desktop environment. I tried using i3, and I do understand tiling WMs, but they’re not really for me and I won’t be able to do a crazy design out of them.

EnderMB ,

You’ve just made your first post regarding Arch. The cycle is complete.

Andromxda ,
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The AUR is pretty awesome. If a piece of software exists on Linux, it’s in the AUR. Even software that doesn’t have a native Linux version can sometimes be found these, e.g. repackaged versions of Electron apps for Windows.

And once you start really customizing your system, you’ll see the value of the Arch Wiki. If there’s something you can do on Arch, the Wiki probably has a well-written guide for it.

moody ,

I used the Arch wiki to get gamescope working on Pop OS. It’s a great resource regardless of your distro. In many cases the info on there is not even Arch-specific.

Thann ,
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100% its the Wiki and AUR!

On every other distro, once you want a program not in the package manager, it will likely be broken by the next update. On arch 99.995% of the time it will be in AUR and you can just make a simple PKGBUILD when its not, so your updates will automatically recompile all of your personal projects!

ari_verse ,

Well these days we have flatpak to solve the “not in the repo” (or ‘old version in the repo’) problem.

Andromxda ,
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Only for (some) desktop applications. The AUR has everything, including CLI tools, configurations and even some niche scripts

theshatterstone54 ,

Exactly. I hate when people constantly bring in Flatpak, because I’d be happily using Debian, if I could have Qtile Wayland with Qtile-extras and Hyprland in the repos with all their dependencies. But that’s never happening, especially for Qtile. These are window managers, you can’t package them in a Flatpak. And what about niche cli tools, as you mentioned? Or what about the latest Neovim on Debian? Yes, there’s a Flatpak but do you really want to mess with a Flatpaked CLI app? I know I don’t.

Andromxda ,
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Yeah imagine having to type in flatpak run io.neovim.nvim to launch Neovim

rickyrigatoni ,

How can I make using Arch Linux my personality when once it’s set up it’s just like any other computer?

Well, do you already have a personality that isn’t based on Arch? If you do, get rid of it.

hector ,

I really like Arch because it’s bare metal but not too much => it’s very easy to choose the components you need for your installation and exactly fine-tune your experience without spending too much time with something like Nix/LFS/Slackware.

  • it’s community supported, lightweight, fast, and easy to use when you know what you’re doing (wow this sentence is dumb but you get me right?)
Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

You fell for the meme lol.

Arch is great if you want very high levels of customization without having to get into compiling and coding, like with Gentoo or NixOS.

I think of it as the distro equivalent to custom keyboard kit, you get all the parts and can swap them out as much as you want. But you’re not designing and fabricating your own circuit board and microcontroller, writing your own custom firmware, getting a custom case modeled and fabricated, etc.

There’s a reason “I use Arch, BTW” Is a meme.

probableprotogen ,

Tbh I only use arch because I still love openbox too much

Ghoelian ,

Can’t you just install openbox on any other distro? Looks like it’s available for all the major ones at least.

laughterlaughter ,

I like operating systems as boring as possible. Let it manage the underlying system while I focus on work. I think you just convinced me to try Arch now.

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