So, “disabling immutability” therefore only applies to ‘hacks’. Right?
Idk if everything can br called “hacks” but mostly yea.
(and also how ~/.local/share/themes could be utilized for this)
I know but idk if GUI apps and extensions can see themes installed in ~/.local and how many installation guides tell about that method.
Fedora Atomic’s new OCI-enabled model does allow this.
Idk how it works and how simple it is but gtk that.
Fact of the matter and the issue at hand is that traditional distros don’t deal with issues like these. Right?
Exactly.
Similarly, ‘immutable’ distros are not to blame if a new user breaks their not newbie-friendly ‘immutable’ distro.
But we’re talking about situation when user-friendly distros become immutable. If the user willingly chooses an advanced distro, it’s not the distro’s fault but, for example, you said that Fedora expects their immutable options to become mainstream. I know that Fedora and other immutable distros are often recommended for new users now. This means that the ones that recommend them consider them user-friendly. Imo this, as well as rumors about Canonical want to make Ubuntu Core the default desktop offering, destroys your point in the context of this discussion.
Do you think I understood you correctly?
Yes that’s exactly what I’m talking about.
The expression “during runtime” is used to express a running and/or currently in use system. So, if my device is off, then the expression “during runtime” does not apply. When I’m using the system or even if it’s just idling, then the expression “during runtime” does apply. However, it’s possible with Btrfs (and more sophisticated technologies) to create a partition/deployment/image on your disk that’s currently not running nor in use and which has some changes compared to your running system. Then, once again, the expression “during runtime” does not apply.
Thank you for the explanation. I appreciate it. And in this case I think my definition of immutability applies to these “runtime-immutable distros” too.
Only after the (soft-)reboot will I be able to use Emacs; be it through the console/terminal or find it in the app drawer.
Another (but small) confusion point for new users.
The crux of this conversation lies here I believe. Your notion/understanding of an immutable system is probably more correct and more in line with what you’d expect from its name. However, the name “‘immutable’ distros” is unfortunately not descriptive. Contrary to what you’d expect, it’s not a distro that happens to be an immutable system; at least, not in the absolute/complete sense.
I understand it.
And, to be honest, I’m not sure if you answered the bold question.
Idk what to answer. Full or partial immutability, it still creates the same issues I described.