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davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s already running Linux. You just showed us a screenshot of it running Android, which is Linux.

someoneFromInternet OP ,

I know :D

randomname01 ,

Clearly not the point of OP’s question though

tate ,

For better or worse the more correct name GNU/Linux did not catch on and is universally shortened to Linux. Android uses the Linux kernel, but is not GNU/Linux, and therefore is not Linux.

davel , (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This is some ass-backwards logic. You’re trying to redefine Linux and then declaring that Android does not meet your novel definition. If Android, Alpine, and Chimera are not Linux, then what are they?

tate ,

they are operating systems that use the linux kernel, just like GNU/Linux (aka “Linux”) does.

Phrodo_00 ,

Are reading what you write? It’s linux so it isn’t?

tate ,

kernel == operating system

Phrodo_00 ,

I don’t know if it’s that cut and dry. If you study a Operative Systems class or buy a book about them, it’ll exclusively deal with the kernel.

tate ,

If you can give a reference to any such book, I’d be very interested to see it.

myslsl , (edited )

Operating System Concepts by Silberschatz, Galvin and Gagne is a classic OS textbook. Andrew Tanenbaum has some OS books too. I really liked his OS Design and Implementation book but I’m pretty sure that one is super outdated by now. I have not read his newer one but it is called Modern Operating Systems iirc.

rwhitisissle ,

Alpine Linux users are in shambles.

Templa ,

Does this means can install any repo on my phone?

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

If you can root your phone, probably some of them, perhaps many of them, but that probably wouldn’t make for a very good phone.

i_am_hiding ,

Sadly no, because while Android is based on Linux, it is so far removed that the kernel is wildly different. Some teams such as mobian, SFOS, postmarketOS, etc. have got fair dinkum Linux running on android devices though.

MonkderDritte , (edited )

As much as a human has of a lizard (lizardbrain). Are we still Lizards?

And “Android” specifically is a certified package with proprietary apps.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Firstly humans having lizard brains is pop science nonsense, and secondly humans and lizards are amniotes. And thirdly, the Android userland is Apache 2.0 licensed, regardless of whatever proprietary apps might or might not be installed on top of it, and the vast majority of Linux distros’ kernels have proprietary binary blob drivers installed in them.

MonkderDritte ,

Ok, you got me there. Was a hard day.

PotatoesFall ,

the ACKSHYUALLY is strong with this one

Mango ,

No it isn’t. Dude is just pointing out the obvious.

PotatoesFall ,

I honestly preferred the people who insist on calling it GNU/Linux over the people who think Android should be called Linux.

Mango ,

Wow, your preferences are so cool! What’s it like to judge people so good?

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Surely its easier to install Linux than android.

I want to know how they put android on it

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, the internals might just be the ones of a tablet or something. With android I’d be guessing its an ARM chip

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Wut. This thing is like a decade old at least. Did we use ARM back then?

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

ARM chips were common in phones, even 10 years ago. But after doing a bit of research, there seems to be an unofficial open source version of android made to run on x86. Might be that this thing is running that. No idea, really

turbowafflz ,

Looks very similar to the Windows CE device action retro has in this video so what he used could be helpful m.youtube.com/watch?v=anz17CNMixU

Veraxis ,

I think you would need to provide more detail to know what you have. Does it have a model number on it anywhere?

someoneFromInternet OP , (edited )

I just can’t find

someoneFromInternet OP ,

that’s it: CPU: WM8650 800Hz Memory:DDR 256MB

It’s information on back cover

sugartits ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9cd09aaa-4c26-420c-93cd-e9c8a95d89e5.jpeg

nyan ,

“WM8650” seems to indicate a VIA WonderMedia WM8650 armv5te chipset, used by a lot of anemic Android laptops circa 2011 (sold under various brandnames, but apparently all made in the same factory). People have installed Linux on them in the past (there seems to have been a fad for Arch on these for a while, given the search results), but you might have trouble getting a device tree that will work with a modern kernel.

Honestly, though, it has less processor than a Raspberry Pi 3. Unless you’ve already thought of a specific use for this, I’d dump it back in the junk drawer.

MonkderDritte ,

I played with Raspbian Minecraft up to Raspi 2.

notthebees ,

I think my pi zero (non w) might run a circle around it.

cRazi_man ,

It might be an interesting project to hardware mod it to gut it and replace internally with an R.Pi.

floquant ,

Probably not worth trying to actually use today. I’d leave it as it is, imo it’s better as a small piece of history - Android on PC is pretty niche

pescetarian ,
@pescetarian@lemmy.ml avatar

www.alpinelinux.org/downloads/

pescetarian ,
@pescetarian@lemmy.ml avatar

Alpine Linux if ARM7 but it is older arm i think

DieserTypMatthias ,
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Well of course you can.

shasta ,

No, you’re not allowed. Now go to your room and think about what you’ve done.

ratzki , (edited )

*what you have NOT done.

Fixed that for you 😉

SuitedUpDev ,

Yes you can, it won’t be great though.

I used to maintain a Linux distribution called “OpenWM8650” (back in 2011 / 2012) which was specially aimed at the WM8650 and WM8505. It would run off the SD card. Which wasn’t great, but the flash onboard support was horrible at best.

Maybe you can find some old information on it, on XDA because the website for the initial distribution is long gone.

notthebees ,

archive.org/details/wm8650-linuxIt might have been archived here.

notthebees ,

Probably

groups.google.com/g/…/L1Q6OHDGDcM

archive.org/details/wm8650-linux

Deconceptualist ,

Most likely yes, as many others have said. Of course you’ll likely have to pick a very lightweight DE.

As a fallback there is always NetBSD.

possiblylinux127 ,

NetBSD will not work at all with Broadcom Wireless

Deconceptualist ,

I mean if you’re down to NetBSD as your pick you’ve probably already made some concessions so plugging into Ethernet isn’t a huge leap at that point.

possiblylinux127 ,

Broadcom makes the wifi

Llituro ,
@Llituro@hexbear.net avatar

well in a cosmic sort of sense, it already is. (android is based on a modified linux kernel). seriously though, check out antixlinux.com it’s a distro to put on any computer, even ones that old.

Telorand ,

MX Linux is the sister project, and I think it also can work on very old hardware.

It had problems with my multi monitor setup, but it booted so ridiculously fast, even on a live ISO. Certainly worth a look.

possiblylinux127 ,

Not enought ram for MX Linux

possiblylinux127 ,

Debian is a better choice in this case.

possiblylinux127 ,

This device should be able to run Linux fine of the specs you provided are correct. You can either use CLI or a Light weight Window manager like IceWM. Web browsing and video playback are out of the question but it most certainly can run vim.

I would just install Debian. It is likely a 32bit machine.

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Even a potato can run linux if you try hard(er) enough.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

a potato?

StoneGender ,

Take a picture of the bottom pls

someoneFromInternet OP ,

that’s it: CPU: WM8650 800Hz Memory:DDR 256MB and information about screen. Literally

ILikeBoobies , (edited )

Wow

The other guy’s getting started link is a good place to start. It will take some work

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

I’m not sure its appropriate here

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