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what’s your thoughts on Linux and Windows…

When I refer to Linux, I am referring to a computer with the kernel and other software that makes up a Personal Computer.

I like to think that Linux is great, and always will be, a Personal Computer. Windows, I will always remember it being the best thing for business’s as Microsoft pushes licenses and such business related features.

I switched to Linux in 2020, Ubuntu, and slowly learned my ways around, and understanding how everything works, but most people don’t have to now, it’s so simple to get started.

roux ,
@roux@hexbear.net avatar

Been using Linux for over a decade and I will never go back lol.

aktenkundig ,

Some spontaneous thoughts Linux:

  • Awesome development environment
  • Awesome software management (apt, zypper, etc)
  • Great choice of desktop environments
  • Gazillions of distros (comes with need to make a choice) Windows
  • Great support for Nvidia drivers
  • Great subsystem for Linux
originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

with everything being web-based, windows is slowly turning into a fancy dummy term/thinclient. exactly the control businesses want.

linux on the other hand is being fleshed out as a true desktop pc with all the customization most of us expect of a daily driver.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

provides more security than windows.

Yeah, if you have a fucking clue what you’re doing which most casual users don’t. (That includes me.)

The only significant advantage it has security-wise over Windows is not defaulting to an admin/root account and instead requiring an elevation of privileges.

…but even modern Windows does the same now.

Exploits exist for Linux and other open source products, corporations with Linux servers and GNU utilities get hacked… I mean fuck just go look at all the CVE’s, they don’t make them for nothing.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/a128051e-af24-4d2c-8579-7b96442d7f4d.png

rostselmasch ,
@rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Every bugfix is a CVE. Even if it is maybe not a security problem in first place, but it might be one in the kernel context, so everything is a CVE. Also other CVEs from other applications, open source or not, doesn’t have to mean that much. You have to see those database quite critical. Especially if you need very esoteric, almost magical methods to exploit.

When the people of the Linux Kernel started flooding them, because every bug is a security problem, those Database providers were and are very happy. It makes good money, those data is seller from other providers to companies. And now you really have to use their service, because the kernel have soooooooo many security problems! It is not like developers or security teams are happy about this shit. But if the senior leaders insist on use those CVEs, you don’t have any choice. And it is not that unusual, that it is not needed to address them.

The Linux Kernel can provide and provides more security when you use them. It is the decision of the distribution if they want to enable selinux or apparmor, enable kernel options, which make your system more hardened with memory encryption, page poison or kernel lock down and and and. Since this is only the kernel, the userland can provide more features, which some distributions also enables.

The way you can elevate applications and define special rights for the usage of devices or OS functions, is incomparable to standard Windows. Would only user, group and rwx exist, they wouldn’t be any lxc, podman, docker or whatever today. Windows does not the same now. Windows does it different and can’t do some things regarding elevation of rights and their restriction by design.

Codemancer ,

“Provides more security than windows”

This is the only one I seriously doubt.

Ms defender is actually something I wish we had a replacement for.

Read only root fs is a start, but it doesn’t protect my documents.

Like your linux doesn’t get hacked because no one cares, if we become a target we are helpless more or less.

moreeni ,

And there are still people who will downvote you for saying that Linux distros are not impregnable fortresses of OS security

atzanteol ,

This is the only one I seriously doubt.

Really? Almost all of it is wrong.

featured ,

Linux can be secured on much deeper levels than windows, by default yes it lacks antivirus but its also much less necessary given the software distribution model of Linux vs windows. But ClamAV is a decent antivirus that I use on my Linux server. Never felt the need for one on my workstation/laptop

Kidplayer_666 ,

I’ve been using Linux between 2018-2020 and on and off between 2020-2023 and regained daily status on November last year. It’s been great, but some things like lacking a proper office replacement (Only Office (FOSS), FreeOffice (Free as in beer), and WPS Office (Free as in beer) are all getting closer) are a bit limiting. Some stuff like lacking VRR and HDR were annoying (getting fixed now) and gaming has been improving. Game compatibility sometimes is a bit of a sore spot, but it’s been getting ever easier and honestly, haven’t had issues with NVIDIA drivers under wayland

fossphi ,

This might be one of the worse infographics I’ve ever laid my eyes on

jol ,

Was probably made by a child as a school project. At least I hope.

fossphi ,

Methinks it might be engagement bait

7uWqKj ,

A child as a school project using ChatGPT

Dariusmiles2123 ,

For me the most annoying thing with Windows is the ads and the fact Microsoft is pushing you to buy into their stuff.

I clearly love Linux way more, but I don’t think Windows (10 at least) is as bad as some people make it sound.

Still I’m trying to convince everyone I know to switch to Linux.

savvywolf ,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Oooh, I get to say an “Umm… Actually” fact. File names are not case sensitive in Linux nor are they case insensitive in Windows.

It’s entirely possible to have a case insensitive filesystem on Linux (I think ext4 supports a mount option for it now). Likewise, there’s a bit you can set on folders in Windows that makes its contents case sensitive. So realistically, case sensitivity is a property of the folder, not the OS.

Yes, that’s as annoying as it sounds.

Peffse ,

I hate the fact that if you want to change the case on a file in windows, you can’t just replace the offending letter. You have to change the name completely, then change it back with the correct casing. Then Windows will finally keep it.

TootSweet ,

Windows, I will always remember it being the best thing for business’s as Microsoft pushes licenses and such business related features.

Most businesses I’m familiar with deserve to have to deal with Microsoft BS.

shotgun_crab ,

Ah yes, free vs cost software…

boonhet ,

I don’t think Windows uses a microkernel. Hybrid kernel is the term I’ve heard used.

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Administrator is not root. NT AUTHORIRY\System probably comes closest. You rarely need to interact with that account because Window’s security system doesn’t have the same mix of authentication systems most Linux systems have (users + container APIs + PolKit).

Windows also supports mixed case filesystems just fine. It’s not the default, so your programs will probably screw up, but it’s just a flag. You can also mount filesystems like ext4 and btrfs on Windows (though booting from them doesn’t really work).

Also, Windows runs Libreoffice and GIMP just fine. You don’t need to, because you have better sofware available (pirated or paid).

As for security, Windows is MUCH better unless you’re a cybersecurity specialist with too much time in their hands. Most major distros don’t even come with a firewall enabled by default, let alone a firewall for outgoing traffic. And the best AV I’ve seen for Linux is Microsoft’s enterprise version of Windows defender. In terms of hacking tools, they’re mostly written in languages Python, most of them work on either platform.

For development, Linux has a slight edge, but with WSL2 it really doesn’t matter much.

fin ,

Linux: Gimp

Windows: Photoshop

Gimp is available on Windows.

floofloof ,

Linux: Libre Office

Windows: MS Office

Libre Office is also available on Windows.

floofloof , (edited )

“Free software” doesn’t mean you don’t pay for it, but that it respects and preserves the user’s freedom. The opposite is not “cost software” but unfree software.

What is free software?

Most of the other points in this list are also questionable or inaccurate. In fact, I think the only true one is the first one: open source vs closed source.

Synther OP ,

Yeah, in fact. The Linux kernel does use proprietary software (Blobs) for it to run. Or stuff to function like Bluetooth and shit like that.

Idk, just a Twitter post I found.

Malgas ,

Though it is also true that Linux is gratis and Windows is not.

Shareni ,

Not really:

  • RHEL is paid if you need more devices than the free license provides
  • SEL and Ubuntu Pro don’t have any free licenses as far as I remember
  • you can mostly use windows without paying anything
Malgas ,

It seems kind of disingenuous to compare enterprise support contracts for Linux to personal Windows licenses. Especially while also ignoring that you do pay for Windows, it’s just hidden in the cost of the device.

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