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Yttra ,

With archinstall? Ridiculously easy.

I’d just look up each of the options it gives you so you can decide what you want or what works best, but as long as you have an internet connection you can just choose your options and away you go.

If you only have wifi, add another 5-8 minutes of learning how to connect to your access point with iw

k4j8 ,

Since nobody else said it: make sure you have backups of any data you don’t want to lose. It’s really easy to accidentally partition any connected drive and wipe your data on it. (Learned it the hard way, but at least I had backups.)

EverythingIsALot OP ,

yeah, i figured.

secret300 ,

Just follow the wiki and you’ll be fine. I did it when I was in highschool. My friend showed me Ubuntu and I used it for about a month then jumped straight to arch

EverythingIsALot OP ,

well damn, im currently in highschool, so it’ll probably be fine.

laurelraven ,

A lot easier than Gentoo

Now I’m kind of wanting to go mess with Gentoo again…

kylian0087 ,

Honesty I found gentoo more easy to install then arch. Mainly because the Gentoo handbook is soo good and is in laid out in a good order. Compare that to the arch wiki that has a ton of sub pages and redirects. Which is just a load harder to follow.

PS. This is before their was a guided installer for arch.

user ,

Endeavour os done.

EverythingIsALot OP ,

what?

pukeko ,

Endeavour is an Arch flavor that has a bunch of ease of use features, like a simple® installer.

Petter1 ,

Even tho i love EndeavourOS to install my Arch, OP asked without archinstall etc. So I assume it includes EndeavourOS.

bismuthbob ,
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Easy if you go step by step and don’t accidentally skip anything. Archinstall will get you to the same result with lower risk of failure, in a tenth of the amount of time spent. And unless you install operating systems for a living, it doesn’t matter how you get there. Source: Installed Arch on about a dozen different devices, twice without Archinstall.

If you’re looking to learn something, do Linux from Scratch instead. The process is way more granular, way more documented, and way more educational than parroting the steps of installing Arch from the wiki.

sandalbucket ,

There is no such thing as easy or hard.

Give it a try, fuck it up, and give it a try again. Try not to fuck it up in the same way as the first time. Repeat until it works - it will work eventually.

It took me about 6 hours and 3 disk re-formats my first time. I was particularly bad at it. I barely knew what a disk was, nevermind a partition.

Actually I’m still not sure what a partition is.

You’ll do fine :)

Cyber ,

Yep, completely agree. We only (really) learn when we make mistakes.

I usually aim to do my “first” (of whatever) as best I can, but totally prepared to wipe & restart…

cy_narrator ,

Cant do if you never try

0x2d ,

i can do it on about 15 minutes without the wiki for a fairly basic install

and then about 30 minutes to set up sway how i want, install common software i like, etc

but for a more complex setup it will take longer and i will need to check the wiki

melroy ,
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I can do it with my eyes closed. And using the number shortcuts to navigate through the menus.

melroy ,
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It's better than it used to be. It might still require some basic cli skills. Especially formatting disks and mount points. And file system types. Etc.

I know manjaro makes it even easier.

PumpkinEscobar ,

Why no arch install?

EverythingIsALot OP ,

cuz doing shit manually is cool

Andrzej ,

It’s not rocket science. You might need a wired connection to begin with though

theshatterstone54 ,

Not really. This 1 minute video is all you need: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqITuprlL8

0x2d ,

you can use iwctl

example:

list interfaces (usually wlan0)

$ ip link

enter iwctl:

$ iwctl

rescan:

$ <iwctl> station [interface] scan

connect:

$ <iwctl> station [interface] connect [ssid]

list networks:

$ <iwctl> station [interface] get-networks

exit:

$ <iwctl> exit

Andrzej ,

Yes, but what if you need to download additional drivers for your wireless card

Pacmanlives ,

It’s not to bad as others are saying. Real question is to why you don’t want to use the installer?

They are quite good. I just used one for a Gentoo install because I have better things to do with my time. Can I do it for the millionth time sure by hand sure but what’s the point? End result is more consistent than me as a human doing it by hand

haroldstork ,

I always manage to forget the locale or NetworkManager or set a password for root etc… Unless you have a hyper-specific partitioning scheme or system config these work great

Reddfugee42 ,

You always forget to set a password for root?

catastrophicblues ,

Exactly. archinstall is pretty nice, and if you want the frustration of dealing with random errors, it’s still there. But it’s straightforward (but keep the docs handy since you’ll likely need them).

uis ,

Not as easy as Gentoo based on what I heard. But installing Gentoo takes quite some time.

xycu ,

Gentoo has binary packages now, so install can be quite fast.

uis ,

True. It also had binary packages for huge packages like firefox and libreoffice for a very long time.

berryjam ,

The wiki holds your hand through it so it’s pretty easy.

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