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TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Oh well…

One day ReactOS will be able to run those just fine while Wine will still not deliver anything usable.

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wlfrn ,
@wlfrn@lemmy.ml avatar

Does ReactOS already support the newest office and Photoshop out of the box!?

MS Office 2021 is garbage but at least 2016 and O365 Home (32-bit) are both silver. The linked Photoshop CC 2023 is also silver. That already seems like an impressive feat by the wine team.

possiblylinux127 ,

React OS is Windows XP so no it is not supported.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

It’s probably easier to hack ReactOS/Windows XP to run Office 2021 than do the same in Wine.

possiblylinux127 ,

I doubt it but you are welcome to try

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, it seems impressive until you actually try to use it and find out that their “silver” is not even close to something you can work with.

Adobe products even when they say Silver you’ll get artifacts when moving objects, resizing the window sometimes ends up on a full screen black square and whatnot.

Office 2016 kind of works, poor rendering but works, the thing is that if I only needed Office 2016 features I would survive mostly fine with LibreOffice. I indeed need features from 2019 that wont run properly.

possiblylinux127 ,

In 2088 React will have support for 2024 GPUs

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

You know that ReactOS development has been speeding up lately don’t you? Either way it’s kinda of stuck in NT5 because they threw out the most competent people of the project.

However… it still runs a ton of stuff better than Wine :)

possiblylinux127 , (edited )

I think they are way under confident and burnt out. The projects been going for decades and all the developers see is more work to do. It is a toxic place. On the one side you have people demanding things and one the other side you have the original people who started it who are older now and lack drive.

Last time I used it it was pretty stable and worked well. However I was repeatedly told it is in Alpha and that I would run into serious issues eventually. I never did run into anything serious and it never corrupted it self like it used to. I was very impressed but also saddened by how the developers are not confident in there own work.

My personal belief is that React OS could be somehow combined with Wine and Samba to create a Windows in a box that could run under other operating systems. You could run Windows specific software in this environment but then have shared resources with the guest and guest side windowing. There are still a few pieces of software that require Windows and it would nice to have the kernel portion combined with Wine. You could have a small KVM machine with PCIe passthough or a kernel module that acts as a wrapper for complex Windows drivers.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t disagree with you, but at the same time:

  • They threw Alex Ionescu out: the guy that actually wrote the majority of they only kernel that actually worked;
  • Martin Fuchs fired: the guy that made the explorer and a ton of GUI components. His code was later on bastardized by everyone else causing the issues you were told about;
  • … and many others.

They had competent people making the thing happen, then they decided to push them away and eventually replace their code with Wine backports and whatnot.

There are still a few pieces of software that require Windows and it would nice to have the kernel portion combined with Wine.

To be fair, if Microsoft was able to create WSLv1 without a kernel and it run just fine, why would Wine not be able to do the same? :) No drivers yes, but the software (including GUI stuff) run just fine and that’s not the case with Wine + the mainstream Windows’ software.

Brickardo ,

checks version number

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systemglitch ,

That’s an unlucky number if I ever saw one.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Did you see the previous post about the release?

systemglitch ,

No. I’m not even sure what this is. Gaming compatibility maybe? I just saw 911 and had that bad omen feeling.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Wine is for running Windows software on Linux. Yeah, mostly used for games.

The previous post had an image of the burning World Trade Center.

systemglitch ,

Oh no lol

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The bug report is over the S-Hoai Windows client displaying an application exception when clicking the “File” or “Projects” menu.

S-Hoai is a Windows application used in Germany by architects and building engineers/contractors for managing estimates and billing according to German laws.

This S-Hoai “Honorarordnung für Architekten und Ingenieure” software on at least older versions has been borked running under Wine with little activity in the bug report over the years.

But now in Wine Staging 9.11 is an OLEDB32 patch where mode can have multiple values as a string.

That will hopefully take care of the issue for S-Hoai and any other similar Windows software.

Separately, Wine Staging 9.11 carries an ODBCCP32 patch to correct the look-up of DSN before writing to registry.

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