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Fedora Silverblue is the most frustrating distro so far

So I took the plunge and installed Fedora Silverblue because of all that immutable buzz. And it’s the most frustrating change I have made in almost 20 years of my distrohopping.

After installing Silverblue I configured it as usual. I installed necessary flatpaks, played with toolbox and distrobox, installed codecs, configured my bluetooth keyboard and other stuff in /etc and /var. Applied some useful tweaks I found on the web and… well… everything works. Nothing to do anymore. No issues. Nothing breaks, no dependency hell, everything runs smooth. I have nothing to tweak, tinker or configure anymore. So frustrating.

Every update is just… meh. Smooth, new, fresh system not affected by my stupid tweaking and breaking. Booooring.

I don’t have to distrohop anymore. If I want other distros I can just install them in distrobox. Other versions of apps? Something from AUR perhaps…? No problem. What’s the point of distrohopping now? Other DEs? I just rebase my system to other images with almost any DE or WM I want without losing data or messing everything up (damn you, UBlue!).

I don’t even have to reinstall the damn thing cause every time I update the system or rebase it to another image it’s like reinstalling it.

Silverblue killed distrohopping for me. Really frustrating.

HulkSmashBurgers ,

I’ve had a similar experience with Guix.

Loucypher ,

Can you still install extensions in GNOME? I hate the defaults

KISSmyOSFeddit OP , (edited )

Yes but only from Gnome directly with an app called extensions manager. You can’t install them from the Fedora repo.

Loucypher ,

Thank you!

pukeko ,

11 months later …

NixOS looks interesting whoosh sucked into a warp

Flaky ,

I should give the immutable distros a try when I’m not reliant on VMware. Though all that said, I’ve been using Fedora KDE Spin lately, and it hasn’t really been a problem either.

BaumGeist ,

After beginning to wrap my head around atomic immutable OSes, I can’t believe they’re not the standard for most servers. i can’t believe Debian doesn’t have an official atomic and immutable version yet, seems exactly like the kind of stability they aim for

DAMunzy ,

Oh, you!

Vilian ,

lmao same, btw install nix using the nix-installer by deterministic system, now i can instalk any cli application without needing to enter distrobox

mr_right ,
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rickyrigatoni ,

Congratulations. You have completed Linux. Please prepare a usb installer for Haiku to move on to the next step of your jouney.

warmaster ,

You need to install a rootkit ASAP.

elucubra ,

Two days ago my Mint system got borked by a kernel update. I booted from the grub menu with the prior kernel, and rolled back with Timeshift. Pretty painless. You don’t need Atomic/immutable distros for that sort of reliability.

I’m playing with kinoite in a VM, though.

FrederikNJS ,

Depends what you break. Sure kernels are easy to fix like you mention, but what if you bork your display manager?

elucubra ,

Can’t you run timeshift from a live usb? Never tried, but i believe its possible. Obviously more time consuming and bothersome, but possible.

FrederikNJS ,

I actually don’t know whether timeshift can just run easily from a live USB, but I don’t see why not.

But of course that also requires you to have installed and set up timeshift before (which is obviously a good idea)

It’s quite a different deal when the whole operating system it built around a timeshift-like concept.

kronarbob ,

What an horror ! What are you gonna do ? Use your working system ? That’s sad…

MajorSauce ,

I’m in the same boat, Kinoite (or rather my own blue build of it) killed my distro-hopping. But fans of Arch might be interested in the upcoming immutable arch-based OS: BlendOS

Dragster39 ,

Finally a real world manual.

Plug your USB in and spam that key while turning on your PC.

Vilian ,

Arkane linux exist, it’s arch linux, and atomic using btrfs

MajorSauce ,

Thanks! I had not heard about it.

It seems to only consider GNOME as the official DE and seem to not have the “blend” integrations of different distro.

Might not be for me but I appreciate the reply and it might help others.

flyhunter ,

Installed Aurora the other day (distro based on kinoite) and could not make my bank software run… It is a “local” (ie, only used by banks in my country) software only available for Ubuntu that requires a systemd service. Tried a lot and couldn’t get it to work. The service started, but the browser accused it was not installed.

KISSmyOSFeddit OP ,

I’m guessing the service wants to edit something it can’t edit on Silverblue. So the software is simply incompatible with your OS (as stated in the documentation)

e8d79 ,

In case you haven’t tried that yet, maybe you could run it in a systemd enabled distrobox container.

LeFantome ,

Thanks for this. I use Distrobox a lot and did not know this.

impure9435 ,

Is your browser installed as a Flatpak?

flyhunter ,

Chromium yes. But firefox was shipped with the distro, so I am guessing it is not flatpak, but not sure.

Vilian ,

nop, sadly, i unistalled it and installed from flatpak

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

For what it’s worth, I’m impressed your bank has Linux systemd support

olafurp ,

I’ve been running Bazzite based on silverblue on my desktop for remote gaming and dockering. Everything was amazing until I started doing some mid-level docker stuff because of the rigidity of the distro.

Podman largely works but since it’s rootless it won’t have access to mounted drives easily due to SELinux.

Mounting a drive automatically wasn’t intuitive either and I ended up editing the /etc/fstab manually.

Setting up a swapfile was also tedious, I needed more than 8GB so I made a 32GB swapfile but I still had to run a sudo command on startup since I’m not really confident with creating a systemd service on an immutable distro.

All in all I should have just gone for Nobara or a regular Fedora but that’s because I have a really edge use-case.

That being said I still highly recommend it. It’s stable, easy to “rebase-hop” and everything just works well and it’s very stable. I’d recommend it for pretty much anyone unless you’re going to do some heavy self hosting with multiple HDs.

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