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TheCheddarCheese ,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

Are Linux kernel lifespans usually that short?

Successful_Try543 ,

Yes, usual releases are supported ~ 3 months, LTS versions get support for a much longer period e.g. 6.6 for 3 y, 6.1 for 4 y, 5.15 for 5 y or 5.10 for 6 y.

theshatterstone54 ,

Is there any particular reason this is news? I thought that’s how most kernel updates went for the non-LTS releases. Or has something changed? What’s different compared to all other kernel updates in rolling releases?

ouch ,

We run production loads on 2.6 kernel. Please don’t ask questions.

VeryImportantUser ,

Meanwhile Ubuntu:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f9433f9d-dc30-4cc4-bf85-9dc0847703a8.jpeg

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Feels like Linux 4.20 wasn’t that long ago and we’re already at Linux 6.9? At this rate Sex 2 will release and it won’t even be exciting

davidgro ,

It does feel that way, but…

“Linux 4.20 was released on Sun, 23 Dec 2018”

About 5.5 years.

rho50 ,

(6.9-4.2)/(2024-2018) = 0.45 “version increments” per year.

4.2/(2018-1991) = 0.15 “version increments” per year.

So, the pace of version increases in the past 6 years has been around triple the average from the previous 27 years, since Linux’ first release.

I guess I can see why 6.9 would seem pretty dramatic for long-time Linux users.

I wonder whether development has actually accelerated, or if this is just a change in the approach to the release/versioning process.

piexil ,

Since version 4.0 the version numbers have nothing to do with changes and are strictly time based. Linux 5.0 happened after Linux 4.20 because Linus “ran out of hands and toes to count on”, same thing with 6.0 after 5.19

ozymandias117 , (edited )

Wait. He lost a finger or toe???

Edit: more seriously it’s been since 3.0 after being on 2.6 forever

there are no special landmark features or incompatibilities related to the version number change, it’s simply a way to drop an inconvenient numbering system

It used to only get bumped after a major new feature update, but it was stable enough at 2.6 that it got stuck there for 8 years, so he switched to a different update number

ozymandias117 ,

I wonder if development has actually accelerated, or if this is just a change in the approach to the release/versioning process

Both.

Development has increased, but you should use your comparison from the last 2.6 release.

It stayed on 2.6.y for 8 years - that was where it got stable enough that there wasn’t some major milestone to use as a new marker for its update number

There are cool new features, but if it followed the old versioning scheme, we’d still be on 2.6 because it hasn’t (intentionally) broken the API between the kernel and userspace

boredsquirrel ,

These messages are damn useless

Distros take care of the kernel, either ship LTS releases or do the backports themselves. Only rolling release people run that kernel.

So this post is literally only useful for the 4 LFS users that now need to recompile their kernels.

nexussapphire ,

You never have to update if you never connect to the internet.https://media1.tenor.com/m/sTgOfidqULkAAAAd/smart-brain.gif

petersr ,

Stuxnet would like a chat with you

nexussapphire ,

Weren’t are nukes controlled by IBM series/1 systems and floppy discs until 2019. They said they upgraded to a highly secure solid state system. They might be still using those computers for some parts of the system because “You can’t hack something that doesn’t have an IP address. It’s a very unique system — it is old and it is very good.”

ryannathans ,

I like to see what’s in the newer kernels and know to expect an update that might break my dkms modules in the near future

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

EoL

released 10 weeks ago

Linux kernel any%

Successful_Try543 , (edited )

As there are LTS branches, currently 5.4, 5.10, 5.15, 6.1 and 6.6 which will get updates until Decembre 2025/2026, I don’t see the problem.

Auli ,

And the older they are the less secure they are. LTS are not as great as people think. ciq.com/…/why-a-frozen-linux-kernel-isnt-the-safe…

jonasw ,

The article is about frozen vendor kernels, not about.LTS

Successful_Try543 ,

Two different things. LTS kernels get security patches until their support is dropped.

jonasw ,

Yeah that’s the whole point of LTS, so it stays compatible with that kernel version but still gets important updates, but no feature updates

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Nice

_spiffy ,
@_spiffy@lemmy.ca avatar

Ni.ce

pbjamm ,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

no.ice.

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