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crazyroostereye , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?

I personally find Gnome works best on Laptops using the Touch pad with its Gesture controlls. But yeah there are things like the missing application tray that can be annoying which can only be added with extensions. Which is annoying again. So pure Gnome is the bare minimum and can work, but with extensions it can bekomm extremely good. In my opinion.

asininemonkey , in What is your go-to Linux distro and why?

Currently NixOS having been a long time Arch user. The power of Nix is unbeatable once it finally clicks.

DudeWithaTwist ,

I keep hearing about NixOS, is it possible to leverage both NixOS and the AUR from arch?

asininemonkey ,

Not that I’m aware of though it would be cool if possible. Thankfully everything I’ve needed has been found in NixOS Packages or Flathub as my last resort. My current setup if you’re curious.

DudeWithaTwist ,

Just skimmed my AUR install list, and yea most of them seem to be on there, good to know! If my laptop ever shits the bed, I’ll give this a shot haha.

aurtzy ,

If you mean use both at the same time, you can! If you check out the website for Nix (or Guix, its Lispy cousin), instructions are provided for installing it alongside your current distro as an additional package manager for those who want to use it without reinstalling or using a vm.

di5ciple ,

NixOS user now. Long time fan of Arch with BTRFS and snapshots but Nix takes everything to the next level.

Meseta , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?
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I love Gnome. But I have a pretty simple workflow where I don’t use many applications. Generally I have a browser and terminal open and that’s it.

I do all my window management inside of Tmux, which is effectively my actual window manager.

I’ve tried KDE in the past but I’ve never liked how it feels like a stepping stone for the Windows interface – not a huge fan of pullout menus. I’ve been using Linux exclusively for almost twenty years so I don’t have any love for that UX.

I used to use a lot of simple/tiling window managers when I was younger and more patient, Gnome feels similar to those in how it has very few bells and whistles to get in your way.

If only maintaining extensions was easier, it feels like every major release breaks every extension for something stupid like renaming a constant. The Gnome team seems to put very little consideration into making the JS extension API stable.

Meseta , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?
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I love Gnome. But I have a pretty simple workflow where I don’t use many applications. Generally I have a browser and terminal open and that’s it.

I do all my window management inside of Tmux, which is effectively my actual window manager.

I’ve tried KDE in the past but I’ve never liked how it feels like a stepping stone for the Windows interface – not a huge fan of pullout menus. I’ve been using Linux exclusively for almost twenty years so I don’t have any love for that UX.

I used to use a lot of simple/tiling window managers when I was younger and more patient, Gnome feels similar to those in how it has very few bells and whistles to get in your way.

If only maintaining extensions was easier, it feels like every major release breaks every extension for something stupid like renaming a constant. The Gnome team seems to put very little consideration into making the JS extension API stable.

mudamuda , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?
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BTW there was a nice idea behind the only close button in early GNOME 3. Apps were intended to save the state on exit, so one doesn’t need to minimize windows, they can close it and reopen at any time and see the exact content of a window. But GNOME completely has failed to deliver that idea.

What makes things worse, there was no clear way to keep apps on the background when the main window is closed. It was seemed as antifeature. But that was a different world where weren’t so much of internet service applications running on the background 24h a day. Now there is a background portal but with quite minimal support in the DE.

rodneyck , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?
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You are not alone. Many love its ‘restrained’ workflow, and DEs are subjective. It sounds like you are ready to move to KDE. KDE has a ‘Overview’ that mimics Gnome’s, so best of both worlds and the taskbar in KDE is actually functional. Don’t waste anymore time, make the switch to day. Operators are standing by. 🤣

entropicdrift , in What developments in the Linux world are you looking forward to the most?
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Mesa 23.2 enabling ray tracing by default on all RDNA 2 and 3 cards using RADV

lynny , in What developments in the Linux world are you looking forward to the most?
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Linux phones are getting closer and closer to usability every day. I don’t care that they’ll always be less polished than iOS or Android, I want a Linux phone.

xapr ,

I’ve been curious about Linux phones. Can you recommended any devices or operating systems to watch? Thanks.

ibroughtashrubbery ,

Pinephone has a great active community, and the device itself is dirt cheap (also pretty low-specced). There’s a pro version with a much better specs in theory, but development state is much rougher. Not that the basic model is anywhere near daily driver material yet, but the progress is very appreciable every time i check in.

gzrrt ,
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Your best bet right now IMO would be flashing PostmarketOS onto a used OnePlus 6, which is cheap, has good specs and none of the battery issues plaguing the Pinephone Pro. That said, it's not 100% ready to be a phone yet- for now its best use case is as a mini-tablet / PDA kind of thing. Really feels like carrying a pocket laptop around, which is pretty fun as a starting point.

xapr ,

Cool, thank you!

citytree ,

Linux phones

Will we be able to use messaging apps such as WhatsApp and Signal on Linux phones?

lynny ,
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Yes, since you can run Android apps on them. They will be slower and have some quirks though I’m sure.

ehrenschwan , in What is your go-to Linux distro and why?

So I use Arch for my personal work. I never had a problem with stability. I’ve also started to be interested in NixOS, but I’m gonna just use it as an Server OS, I feel like it makes sense with the infrastructure as code implications.

carlytm , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?

I’m not really using “vanilla” GNOME since I have a number of extensions, but the only one that really modifies the workflow is Tray Icons: Reloaded.

That said, while it’s definitely not for everyone, I’m very comfortable with it. I like that everything feels “out of my way” unless I need it, and I find the Activities view to be easier for finding a minimized program at a glance than a taskbar.

estebanlm ,
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Same. I love it and I don’t know how I spent so much time not-using it :)

BaalInvoker , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?

Yes, I do

MigratingtoLemmy , in What developments in the Linux world are you looking forward to the most?

AMD is planning to release OpenSIL in 2027, which should, in theory, accelerate the development of Coreboot and Libreboot and bring them to modern AMD motherboards

thegreenguy ,

I'm curious, will that work with Motherboards released until then, or just new motherboards from that point onwards?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

New motherboards. Unless AMD collaborates with board makers to push updates to their BIOS/UEFI to include OpenSIL compatibility, which is likely not going to be the case in my opinion

Wr4ith , in What is your go-to Linux distro and why?
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Gentoo and Debian. Debian will let you get back to what you really want to be doing whereas gentoo gives you excellent granularity over everything, but can be overwhelming and time consuming.

Really should ask yourself what you’ll be mostly doing and pick a tool (distro) that let’s you accomplish that.

vampatori , in Does anyone actually like the default GNOME workflow?
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Yes, I love it! Really it’s the MacOS-like “Expose” feature that I find to be essential.

I would advise against using workspaces though, I find those actually sort of go against the core idea of it IMO. There are a few things I’d really like added to it, but for the most-part when you get into it it’s great.

My main desktop I have 4 monitors (I know, but once you start a monitor habit it’s really hard to not push it to the limit - this is only the beginning!) It roughly breaks down into:

  1. Primary work (usually a full-screen editor)
  2. Terminals (different windows, some for the project, some monitoring)
  3. Browsers - documentation, various services, my own code output
  4. Communication - signal, discord, what’s app (ugh), etc.

The key, literally, is you just press the Super key and boom, you can see everything and if you want to interact with something it’s all available in just one click or a few of key presses away.

On my laptop with just one screen, I find it equally invaluable, and is actually where I started to use it the most - once again, just one press of Super and I can see all the applications I have open and quickly select one or launch something.

It’s replaced Alt + Tab for me - and I know they’ve made that better, and added Super + Tab, but none of them are as good as just pressing Super.

The things I’d really love added to it are:

  • Better tiling (including quarter tiling). It’s a sad state of affairs when Windows has far better tiling than Gnome.
  • Super then Search, I’d like it to filter the windows it’s showing and shrink/hide the others, along with a simple way to choose one using the keyboard.
  • Rather than having an icon for each window, I also want the tooltip information to always be shown (e.g. vs code project) and for standard apps to expose better information for that (e.g. Gnome Terminal to expose its prompt/pwd) and/or have a specific mechanism by which apps could communicate.
  • Adding Quicksilver-like functionality to the launcher/search would be amazing. e.g.
    • Super
    • Sp… (auto-populates Spotify)
    • Tab
    • P… (auto-populates Play/Pause)
    • Return
  • Session restoration - it just doesn’t work at the moment for some reason. Some apps do, some don’t. Some go to their correct position/size, some don’t.
sab ,

I would advise against using workspaces [...] My main desktop I have 4 monitors

Hahaha, figures. I mostly only use my laptop monitor, and absolutely depend on workspaces in everything I do. I rarely have more than four open, but I really like that it's flexible.

For me the default Gnome workflow is fantastic. I feel like there are always two quick ways of doing anything I want, either with touch pad gestures or with the keyboard depending on situation. I get frustrated trying to use anything else.

vampatori ,
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I did start with it and use it on a laptop, honestly I think that’s where it shines the most - but I guess the more windows you open the less useful it becomes. I think if there was a way to do the expose-like “view all things at once” (Super key) that worked across all workspaces, I’d be all over them. But as there’s no easy way to live view everything on all workspaces, I just don’t use them.

cyberpunk007 , in What is your go-to Linux distro and why?

Arch or manjaro because I can find so much more stuff in AUR.

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