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Dirk , in Ubuntu Plans to Ditch its 'Minimal' Install Option
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

A “Minimal Ubuntu”? Like … Debian?

InverseParallax ,

Shots fired.

miroslav ,

I think he hit the bullseye 🤭

curioushom ,

Look here buster that was a stretch at best!

miroslav ,

Should we squeeze more from this?

curioushom ,

These puns got me all wheezy!

inasaba , in Ubuntu Plans to Ditch its 'Minimal' Install Option

Oh no, but I always use this… :(

PerogiBoi , in Ubuntu Plans to Ditch its 'Minimal' Install Option
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Pls no I just did a minimal Ubuntu install on my MS Surface and I guarantee I’m going to need to reinstall it at least 2 more times as I bork the entire OS trying to customize GNOME.

sounddrill ,

Timeshift go brr

sarsaparilyptus ,

Dear liberals, you claim you installed “minimal” Ubuntu, yet you use GNOME instead of XFCE. Curious.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I like bling but I don’t like bloat on my hard drive. Checkmate mister.

sarsaparilyptus ,

I don’t like bloat on my hard drive

So you installed GNOME? This is not the checkmate you think it is.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I think the fact that you’re so bothered by me using default GNOME but wanting to pick my own apps is reason enough to keep it. Cry more about my personal decisions 😄

sarsaparilyptus ,

I’m bothered by the fact that you made a statement that’s not internally consistent and contradicts itself. Like whatever you like, but if you’re going to cite a reason, be accurate.

SafetyGoggles ,

How is “GNOME is bloat” a objective fact? Maybe to you GNOME is bloat because you don’t use it. But they use GNOME, so it’s not bloat to them.

Conversely, if they don’t use XFCE, then having XFCE installed by default is a bloat to them.

Don’t be so dense.

sarsaparilyptus ,

Pot, meet kettle.

4am ,
@4am@lemmy.world avatar

HOLY FUCK, you insufferable redditors, this is why people say “you know what? Let’s not use Linux, it is a silly OS”

sarsaparilyptus ,

You need to calm down

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

People like him should stay on Reddit. That entitled fuck wanted me to apologize because he didn’t like how I worded my comment lmao

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s clear you don’t hang around many people if you expect everyone to make zero mistakes.

sarsaparilyptus ,

I don’t expect people to make zero mistakes, I expect people to not be belligerent when they make mistakes

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I expect you to be a decent human being but my hopes were too high unfortunately.

sarsaparilyptus ,

Evidently your high expectations came from being up high on a cross

cowmouse ,

GNOME isn’t inherently bloated, though; the GNOME circle apps may ne bloat if you don’t need them. Liberals? Where!?

cestvrai ,

Xubuntu is an official option…

UprisingVoltage , in Chinese distro (OpenKylin) made to provide independence from western technologies releses its first stable version

Bit of a hot take, but I’m really hoping for china to go windows-free. Even if it’s OrwellOS and sends ungoldy amounts of data to the government (pretty sure they already do that on windows too), just make it linux-based.

Compnaies would finally start taking linux in serious consideration to not being left out of the chinese market, we would start seeing laptops sold with linux and all the good stuff.

modulartable ,

I’m surprised the CCP hasn’t rolled out their own distro! It’s 2023 what are they waiting for!?

vanderbilt ,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

This has actually been a long time coming. The first iteration was a FreeBSD-based distro back in 2013. Then an Ubuntu variant replaced it shortly after. The DE is UKUI, and it’s what « makes a Kylan » it seems. openKylin seems to be an all-around improvement over Ubuntu Kylin, and it uses APT as well. It looks pretty, but things still need some serious polish.

coderade ,

Yes! Having the worlds largest country run on Linux would do wonders for its adoption. If all the western business partners just stopped accepting windows files and started distributing Linux packages, it would accelerate adoption elsewhere.

Aman9das ,
@Aman9das@rammy.site avatar

Largest in what sense?

maynarkh ,

GDP comes to mind.

There are other metrics as well surely, I wouldn’t be surprised if China was amongst the biggest OS user markets as well.

If we’d be talking size as in territory, I doubt anyone cares what the Russian market does.

coderade ,

I was thinking population, and therefore users of the OS. I feel like a lot of western companies are already bending over to tap into the Chinese markets, so if they had to support Linux to do that for software, maybe they would.

LucidDaemon , in Share your favorite Linux Desktop Environment

Sway or GNOME (Wayland) with Pop shell extension.

MisterDigital , in Drive (s) wrecked?

Have you tried it with a different enclosure or directly connected to your PC? My last two “faulty” HDDs actually just had a faulty controller in the enclosure. Drives were fine.

waspentalive OP ,

This enclosure was working up till when I stopped a dd to try something faster.

warmaster , in Do any modern desktop environments support a grid layout of virtual desktops?
Efwis , in Drive (s) wrecked?

Have you tried looking at the disk with gparted?

waspentalive OP ,

Created a 2tb partition with gparted now writing to failure with dd. Up to 41gb so far.

Efwis ,

Sounds like that drive is gone. I’m betting it has dead blocks/sectors

waspentalive OP ,

Now the 2TB drive has received 88GB so far - the write continues.

Efwis ,

Keep us posted.

waspentalive OP ,

The DD continues now at 170Gb of 1024 - a long way to go… 25mb / s

Efwis ,

That’s awesome, sounds like hearted may have saved your drive useability.

Efwis ,

Well that is a good sign then. You have definitely broken that 5gb issue. Did you happen to notice if there was. Hidden petition on there?

waspentalive OP ,

I did not see any. Gparted would have shown them to me, right?

Efwis ,

Kinda depends on the software used to format the drive originally iirc

ThreeHalflings , (edited ) in How to create a sandbox folder, restricting write access to all files contained in it to that folder itself?

The old answer is a chroot jail, the new answer is a Docker container or VM if Docker won’t cut it.

I’m lazy, so Virtualbox is my VM software of choice. I keep a machine with a fresh debian install and just Clone it to make throwaway VMs.

Keep in mind that malicious software on a VM might be isolated from the host in many ways, but if it’s allowed to communicate on your network then it can still be dangerous, especially if you have samba shares, or services you don’t expose to the outside internet with weak or default passwords. (Did you change the admin password on your router’s Web interface?)

Creating a VM with no network interfaces is “mostly safe”, but you hear about VM bust out exploits now and then.

In reality, gold standard is a separate physical computer with no network connections to anything but other untrusted physical computers, and no wireless adapters (Bluetooth or WiFi). This is an “air gapped” network, but if you’re dealing with shit that makes you want an air gap, either you already know more than you’re gonna learn on Lemmy, or you’re bout to get your door kicked in by men in black suits :D

ThreeHalflings ,

Also worth saying 99.9% of air gap failures are due to some idiot getting lazy with a usb stick or a phone. They’re a bitch to work with.

(Another 0.09% are someone plugging the wrong cord into the wrong switch by accident or stupidity)

lynny , in Drive (s) wrecked?
@lynny@lemmy.world avatar

Try in another computer if you have one. The fact dd is limiting you to 5GB though doesn’t sound good, not going to lie.

waspentalive OP ,

I do not have another available, nor do I have an internal SATA slot available.

Eufalconimorph , in I keep closing my browser tabs by accident with Ctrl + W

Pretty sure that’s been the shortcut since Mozilla Phoenix (now Firefox) introduced tabs in 2002 or so.

guigs44 , in Drive (s) wrecked?

Have you checked SMART?

waspentalive OP ,
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">Device Model:     WDC WD20EZRX-00D8PB0
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Local Time is:    Fri Jul  7 04:43:34 2023 PDT
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART support is: Enabled
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        been run.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Total time to complete Offline 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">data collection:                (27360) seconds.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Offline data collection
</span><span style="color:#323232;">capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        command.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Offline surface scan supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Self-test supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        Selective Self-test supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        power-saving mode.
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Short self-test routine 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Extended self-test routine
</span><span style="color:#323232;">recommended polling time:        ( 276) minutes.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Conveyance self-test routine
</span><span style="color:#323232;">recommended polling time:        (   5) minutes.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SCT capabilities:              (0x7035) SCT Status supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                                        SCT Data Table supported.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   177   173   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       4141
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       4416
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   089   089   000    Old_age   Always       -       8602
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   097   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       3624
</span><span style="color:#323232;">192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       100
</span><span style="color:#323232;">193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   088   088   000    Old_age   Always       -       338427
</span><span style="color:#323232;">194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   119   104   000    Old_age   Always       -       28
</span><span style="color:#323232;">196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART Error Log Version: 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">No Errors Logged
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8602         -
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    1        0        0  Not_testing
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    2        0        0  Not_testing
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    3        0        0  Not_testing
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    4        0        0  Not_testing
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    5        0        0  Not_testing
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Selective self-test flags (0x0):
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
</span>
mudamuda , in Arch Linux isn't up to date anymore
@mudamuda@geddit.social avatar

To go x86_64-only was a mistake for Arch. Distros like Fedora or Debian, or openSUSE have universal building systems and infrastructure for building packages for different architectures. Arch just creates unnecessary fragmentation for the GNU/Linux landscape: software need to be packaged for the distro and for the same time PKGBUILDs cannot be reused in general for anything to go full Arch Linux. Not for other architectures, not for servers or LTS. Only for a x86_64 desktop niche. Arch Linux doesn’t scale.

Fryboyter , (edited )

To go x86_64-only was a mistake for Arch.

  • The development team of Arch is comparatively small compared to other distributions.
  • To support platforms other than x86_64 one should have access to appropriate hardware to test the packages. I for one have not had i686 hardware for a while. This is probably true for many other users as well.

Therefore, from my point of view, they have done everything right. Just like other, non-Arch based distributions, which are also now only offered for x86_64.

Distros like Fedora or Debian, or openSUSE have universal building systems and infrastructure for building packages for different architectures.

Right. And all have more collaborators and more money. For example, according to nm.debian.org/members/, nearly 1000 people participate in Debian.

Arch’s core development team, on the other hand, consists of just 28 people without being paid for it. In addition, there are some “trusted users” (a bit more than 60 iirc) and some people responsible for support (wiki and IRC moderators etc.).

Arch just creates unnecessary fragmentation for the GNU/Linux landscape: software need to be packaged for the distro and for the same time PKGBUILDs cannot be reused in general for anything to go full Arch Linux.

Fragementation has always existed. Before Arch I had used Mandrake / Mandriva. With it I often could not use Redhat packages although they technically used the same format (RPM).

By the way, in the case of Arch or distributions based on it, you can in many cases use PKBUILD files for other platforms as well. Often it is sufficient to modify the line arch=(‘x86_64’) accordingly. I have done this in some cases where a software for Alarm (Arch Linux ARM) was not officially offered. I simply took the PKBGUILD file from Arch Linux and changed it accordingly. And yes, this does not always work.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

I’m running Arch on aarch64, so the fact that’s unsupported is news to me

dpflug ,
@dpflug@hachyderm.io avatar

@OsrsNeedsF2P
Arch Linux ARM is technically a separate project
@mudamuda

20gramsWrench , in Why do we need tiling window managers when we have tmux?

gaps

sedot , in Share your favorite Linux Desktop Environment

Xfce, i just like it.

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