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Peruvia , in Why is Linux so frustrating for some people?
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People get used to things they understand so they don’t want to learn. Frustration builds as you get older, so I am glad I started a long time ago, and I have a lot of respect for people who are willing to learn constantly and are patient. I learn(ed) from trial and error, I like poking the bear and being able to see what works/doesn’t and why. The responses I got regarding lack of linux usage is that people don’t like spending time troubleshooting, or they get super jaded and just want something that works then and there, just so they don’t think too much about it. But now the irony is that windows will piss them off so much they will have no choice but to learn the distro they choose. It’s like vim, at first it seems strange, but once you learn it you will never look back. Learning is done as long as there is curiosity and need involved.

philluminati , in Why is Linux so frustrating for some people?

When I got into Linux I read every physical book I could. Physical books on a subject tend to be written to have chapters that cover whole material. When you try and learn from multipe ebooks you randomly found online you end up cherry picking bits and pieces and never actually read every chapter, so you miss fundamentals.

Maybe you would benefit by reading a PAPER copy of a book about Linux and the especially command line. Linux is a very command line oriented system so maybe trying to tackle some of the struggles head on will help you unlock apt any other tools.

LucyLastic , in To celebrate Slackware turning 30, I put on my 13.37 release t-shirt!

sigh yes I remember 1.0 taking up a lot of my 160mb hard disk.

Things I remember: changing the command line font was mindblowing. I managed to get xeyes to run, but not a window manager, so I just had massive eyes following the cursor around. I compiled a lot of my really shoddy C code but had no idea what I was doing. The number of disks that Emacs needed felt disproportionate at 5 when MS Word 2.0 fitted on 3, and Doom fitted on 3 and a half.

It was all very exciting, and felt like you were “sticking it to the man” by not using ms-dos :-)

These days I just use computers as a tool, and as such I have Linux Mint on my home machine.

marmalade , in What is the most opinionated linux distro?

Good ‘nuff.

I was probably saltier than I needed to be but I hate it when people just say shit, and it becomes a n unquestioned truth.

dylanTheDeveloper , in Why is Linux so frustrating for some people?
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Its a little more difficult to debug and fix issues compared to windows

RagingToad , (edited )

Is that true? Every error in Linux is logged, configurations are readable. For me, I’m very tech savvy, clicking around in GUIs hoping to find something, spelunking in event manager trying to find an error, is so much harder than in Linux.

This is very personal, I know. How do you debug and fix issues in Windows again? :-) It has been a while.

antihero ,

Yes, and everyone knows the blue screen of death!! It’s so annoying.

RagingToad ,

Well they thoroughly fixed that in Windows 2000 with better memory management. Has happened very rarely in versions after that.

But, yes, it’s also conveys very little useful information other than “I crashed, I hope you saved whatever you were doing”.

(But I’ve had crashes in Linux too, probably because of Nvidia)

dylanTheDeveloper ,
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Event viewer and dumps for bluescreens (in windows 10 and maybe 11 you have to enable it), I just hate having to use the terminal

CouncilOfFriends , in Why is Linux so frustrating for some people?

One pain point I commiserate with mentioned here is the fractured nature of finding federated communities, which I don’t see any easy way to solve.

Raphael , in To celebrate Slackware turning 30, I put on my 13.37 release t-shirt!
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Now post one without the shirt to be distro-agnostic.

troyunrau OP ,
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To celebrate Slackware turning 30, I took off my shirt. My girlfriend and six people on the internet were super impressed by my slackware tattoo.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/9a8be508-1a2b-4a58-9339-62e5d9cc1bdf.png

krazylink , in Add Vim to your Bash prompt (video)

What are tha advantages of this over set -o vi?

sebastiancarlos OP ,

Setting it up in .inputrc allows more flexibility and configuration. Plus, it’s shared by any other app that uses Readline for the prompt.

warmaster , in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?

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I_Miss_Daniel , in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?
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How about not just dumping the user to a weird terminal prompt at startup because it thinks the file system needs a check?

They shouldn't have to google what to do next.

tabular , (edited ) in Advice for a middle-age, moderately pc knowledgeable person to finally switch to or become proficient with Linux?
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Being able to easily switch back to Windows hindered my attempt to learn Linux. When I wasn’t in the mood to learn a new concept, or failed to get something working after a few tries, then I’d just boot right back into Windows. I was able to push on when I deleted Windows in a rage and now the alternative to getting over the Linux hill was going back down and doing the “no, no, no, no, fuck off” dance that is the Windows install process.

Websites recommending Ubuntu to noobs didn’t help me much. The panel being stuck of the left size of the monitor after my friend boasted about customization on Linux really grinds my gears. Linux Mint was much better coming from Windows, and I’m still on it years later.

RassilonianLegate ,
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@tabular
@Andonyx
Agreed on all points, I didn't end up finally switching to linux until I got so fed up with the auto update caused issue I was having that I just got rid of windows entirely

And while I at first switched to Ubuntu, I wouldn't be happy until a few months later when I landed on fedora with KDE

indigojasper , in What are the main challenges in Linux adoption for New users, and how can it be addressed?
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The last time I tried to make a USB dual-boot Linux on a laptop I ended up breaking the laptop. It would turn on but show nothing but a black screen. Makes me really hesitant to try again on an old laptop that I would still like to be able to use if I fuck it up.

FarLine99 , in How to accurately measure laptop battery life in Linux?

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madcow , in Distro hoppers, how do you manage your config files?

I really like the simplicity of this workflow by StreakyCobra on HN (explained as a blog post here):

I use:

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">git init --bare $HOME/.myconf
</span><span style="color:#323232;">alias config='/usr/bin/git --git-dir=$HOME/.myconf/ --work-tree=$HOME'
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config config status.showUntrackedFiles no
</span>

where my ~/.myconf directory is a git bare repository. Then any file within the home folder can be versioned with normal commands like:

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">config status
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config add .vimrc
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config commit -m "Add vimrc"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config add .config/redshift.conf
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config commit -m "Add redshift config"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">config push
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And so one…
</span>

No extra tooling, no symlinks, files are tracked on a version control system, you can use different branches for different computers, you can replicate you configuration easily on new installation.

captain_aggravated , in Why is Linux so frustrating for some people?
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“I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited.”

What DE are you using? Gnome?

leninmummy OP ,

KDE, but it seems I soft-broke it as well while installing after regular Gnome Ubuntu. Now I’m installing Kubuntu on my laptop and will try out any other distro on a new SSD I bought for my desktop.

As others pointed, doing stuff in a rush and blindly using guides and pasting commands makes everything more difficult. No matter how robust or good the UI is lol

captain_aggravated ,
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Yeah it has been my experience that, even though it is technically possible to swap DEs in an install or even have multiple installed at once, they don’t seem to be designed for it, and they will start to fight. I once installed Cinnamon on Pop!_OS alongside their funky in-house implentation of Gnome, and Flatpak stopped working.

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