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WhiteBerry , in AMD Ryzen 9 9950X & Ryzen 9 9900X Deliver Excellent Linux Performance Review

Can someone PLEASE do some reviews of the Strix Point CPUs running Linux on notebooks?

banghida , in I don't know what to pick.

Intel

ButtBidet ,
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Intel is on the BDS list though

INeedMana , in I don't know what to pick.
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Apparently new NVIDIA open source kernel module has the same performance as propietary so I’d fall back on the data from this and decide based on that

Some tools for fan curves etc might be still a little bit unpolished for NVIDIA, maintainers had a lot more time to fix them for AMD. But there are many NVIDIA users out there so I’d wager on the biggest issues being addressed rather sooner than later

thingsiplay , in I don't know what to pick.

Depends on what you want to do. If you need CUDA for certain applications in example, its better to use Nvidia. Do you have a G-Sync monitor? Nvidia. Currently Nvidia does not work well with Wayland, if you want to game. Nvidia is also better at Raytracing, if that is something important to you. The Open Source Kernel modules for Nvidia doesn’t matter at all, because the driver is still closed source and basically nothing changes. I believe HDMI is better supported for Nvidia, because of the closed source driver. HDMI does not like Open Source and therefore its a bit limited on AMD. I would recommend using DisplayPort anyway, but that might not be an option for every monitor.

Also in my experience it was a pain to use Nvidia, not only because of problems here and there (under X11 back then), but also because drivers were downloaded multiple versions in Flatpak. Because each program was depending on a certain version of the Nvidia driver. Each of the drivers were over 300 MB downloads, so it adds up after 6 versions and updating over and over again.

I don’t know what the current state of Nvidia is to be honest, because i switched to AMD. So it comes down to what card is available to you at what price, and what you want do. If you don’t know and have to ask, I would say AMD is a safe bet. Buy into Nvidia only after research and if you really need certain stuff.

monobot ,

If you need CUDA for certain applications in example, its better to use Nvidia.

Depends on budget. PyTorch works nicely on ROCm and, for me, bigger constraint is available VRAM than GPU speed and looks like AMD has cheaper RAM, comparing their cheapest 16GB cards AMD is 33% cheaper than Nvidia where I live, and there was some card 45% cheaper few months ago. Huge savings if on limited budget.

Empricorn ,

Do you have a G-Sync monitor? Nvidia.

This is really only relevant for older/lower-power GPUs, right? I think if you can easily game at high frame rates on modern games, you don’t need G-Sync.

thingsiplay ,

This has nothing to do with older or lower power GPU. G-Sync is the best possible way to play games, if you can. Higher framerates is not a replacement for VRR technology.

Telorand ,

Thanks for the rec. I’m still on Windows on my main rig, but I’m transitioning to Linux very soon, once I have all my ducks in a row.

I have a G-sync 240Hz monitor, and it’s far superior to using V-sync. Good to know I’ll still get the most out of it with the card I have.

thingsiplay ,

If you already have a working graphics card, then you can try to use it first. My last Nvidia card was 1070 and I just switched to AMD last year. And because my monitor is a little old, it has only G-Sync and no FreeSync; meaning I lost the ability of VRR. If you already have a monitor and gpu, then my recommendation is just to use that again and see how things are going before buying into new and expensive hardware. As a sidenote, I’m a huge emulation fan. And old consoles and arcades have weird sync-rates, in which case VRR like G-Sync is optimal. But thats just a sidenote.

You can also dual boot Windows and Linux, meaning you choose what operating system to run at boot time. Then you have a little backup on one side and can jump back if needed and the new experiment on the other side. I assume you will do something wrong and it might even require to reinstall Linux again, maybe not, but you should always be prepared for the worst case scenario.

Telorand ,

I’ve been doing trial installs in VMs before I make the full switch, so I know what to expect when I do the bare metal install. It’s not exactly a 1:1 analog, but it’s given me some good expectations and allowed me to iron out some requirements (like a dumb VPN client my work requires).

I plan to go full Linux and just have vfio pass the graphics card to a Windows VM for the few times I need it. Most of my programs have a Linux counterpart or equivalent, and the remaining few I don’t need.

thingsiplay ,

Nice, you are doing your homework!

Jontique , (edited ) in I don't know what to pick.

99% depends on your budget too. I have a 7900XTX and it has been smooth on wayland

possiblylinux127 ,

So is my 580

Kongar , in I don't know what to pick.

Single person’s data point:

I’ve had numerous gpus-I’ve been all over the map for years. Sometimes amd sucks, sometimes nvidia sucks. Right now, I’m rocking a 4090 and it’s working better in endeavoros than I’ve ever seen nvidia work in linux. (I’ve always had problems with nvidia cards screen tearing, stuttering, and general installation issues).

But honestly, those complaints have been resolved at least with my distro. I think both brands are in a good spot right now. I think you’re safe to buy whatever floats your boat.

IMO

thingsiplay ,

Good to know (I use EndeavourOS too, BTW). I think its also important to know if you use Wayland.

I think you’re safe to buy whatever floats your boat.

It is not that simple! In example OpenCL was problematic with AMD, which prevents it from being used in applications. Installing ROCm driver as an alternative can be problematic in AMD too, which solves one issue but brings another. I just recently got OpenCL working with AMD, thanks to a new experimental implementation in Rust. My point is, he really should research before buying, because depending on the use case one option is better than the other.

Telorand ,

I love these “AMD outlier cases,” because it tempers my own expectations.

I have a 3060ti and want to upgrade to an AMD card in 5-ish years, but it’s nice to not be surprised or know beforehand that it’s not necessarily going to be perfect or better than my Nvidia experience.

GolfNovemberUniform , in I don't know what to pick.
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I don’t think the new open-source modules will help bring the features to Linux. NVIDIA isn’t interested in making their monopolist features reverse engineerable.

Telorand ,

Thank fuck for the NVK team.

bismuthbob , in Minetest 5.9.0 is here!
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I’ve been having fun with VoxeLibre lately on single-player mode. Nothing too fancy, gameplay is eerily similar to vanilla Minecraft. I’m looking forward to trying other games built on the engine that offer a bit more variation.

One nice thing is that the android version of Minetest is compatible with the PC version, so it is possible to sync save files and play on the go. It also seems to load faster than Minecraft does.

Mispasted , in Linux on non-PCs/Laptops

There’s a jack-in-the-box here that runs linux on their drive-through screen. I only know because it’s had a “vmlinuz not found” error for a few weeks now xD

kusivittula , in I don't know what to pick.

if you need hdmi 2.1, nvidia. if not, amd.

thejevans ,
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I have a 7900XTX and I use a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter to get HDMI 2.1. I can use 4K@120Hz and HDR on my LG OLED TV just fine with that setup. The only real limitation is 3 display outputs vs 4 if I could use the HDMI out for what it is meant for.

kusivittula ,

i use an lg oled tv as monitor too and was planning to get an amd gpu. i looked at these adapters, only a couple different ones available where i live but they had horrible reviews. what brand is yours?

jodanlime , in NAS Server OS/Software Suggestions
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TrueNAS

pnutzh4x0r , in The Open Source Computer Science Degree
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Not a bad list. Off the top of my head, I would say it is missing two things:

  1. Discrete Math (formal logic, sets, probability, etc)
  2. Theory of Computing (not just algorithms, but things like Turing machines, NFAs, DFAs, etc.). These may not be strictly the most practical courses, but I think a Computer Science degree would be incomplete without these.

The “Introduction to Operating Systems” link no longer works (redirects to “Autonomous Systems” courses). Instead, I would recommend using Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces, which is the textbook I use in my OS course.

Finally, something like The Missing Semester of Your CS Education would also be a nice extra.

phrogpilot73 , in NAS Server OS/Software Suggestions
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OpenMediaVault (OMV) is a Debian server with a very user-friendly web interface. It also has solid documentation and a robust community. I’ve been running it for 6 years, and I am very happy with it.

Blursty ,
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OpenMediaVault (OMV) is a Debian server

Maybe it’s because I’m old but these words combined together depress me. Why is NAS software an operating system?

The last time I tried to install this it complained that it couldn’t be installed on an OS that had a GUI. What a joke.

possiblylinux127 ,

Why would your server have a GUI?

possiblylinux127 ,

I would just use the CLI. The web interface is a bit confusing and doesn’t allow directory services.

phrogpilot73 ,
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I would agree. But for the very basics starting and learning, the UI isn’t that intimidating.

Lojcs , in I don't know what to pick.

Gpu brand shouldn’t be a factor, just buy whatever’s better value.

I’ve used nvidia on Wayland for a year and the issues are greatly exaggerated, and if you have a cpu with an igpu you can plug your monitor(s) into the motherboard to get around wayland-related ones (there’s probably some latency impact for games but I can’t tell).

Currently the problems (that I know of) with nvidia drivers are that colors get muted if you enable hdr, steam’s web interfaces appear corrupted or flicker unless you resize them, there is no memory spillover to ram, and the nvidia ‘x server’ settings app doesn’t support wayland.

And keep in mind that issues tend to get resolved over time. When I first built my PC the nvidia gpu would cause xwayland apps to flicker and didn’t support nigth light or transparent panels in kde. The amd igpu would turn the screen pure white if I changed windowing related kde settings. These don’t happen anymore.

just_another_person , in NAS Server OS/Software Suggestions

Synology and Qnap cheaper solutions would work just fine for what you need, and are only ~$200-300. Cheaper then building an entire box, but if not…

Fract Node 804 Case (space for 8 3.5" HDDs, AMD lower wattage CPU, whatever mobo with an SFP module.

Run TrueNAS or Unraid on it, and you’ll be ready to go.

ALoafOfBread OP ,

You might be right. The Synology products look really good. I didn’t see that they actually have a sub-$400 4-bay NAS… DS423. Not sure if it’ll meet my performance needs. But the $600 4 bay doesn’t look too bad either really.

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