I would only recommend it to Windows users looking to start using Linux. The average Linux user is a lot more tech-literate than me and can use the more difficult but more customizable and streamlined distros, and the average Windows user has no chance on Linux, not even Ubuntu which was already a lot of work for me to switch to
I installed Arch on all my PIs just so I can reinstall every single one because they have abandoned new packages. But it also was unofficial. Now I just generally want to move to Star64 because Risc-V sounds interesting.
Small(er) community than what you might be used to since you’re coming from a more mainstream distribution.
Smaller selection of software available than Arch (due to AUR) but I dabble only with essentials so hasn’t bothered me. You can always compile from source.
Good documentation. It’s not at the level of Gentoo or the BSDs but good enough for anyone to get a hold on it and start learning.
I did too until I tried to use them. They lack several features that rooted containers have, and a lot of howtos take for granted. They’re fine for very simple containers, but expect pain an suffering.
I’m in the same boat. For a long time I was a RHEL admin at work, and ran Ubuntu at home. Three years ago my workplace switched to Ubuntu servers, and at home I switched to Manjaro. Now I’m sick of Manjaro, and want to move to something else for home use. I’ve been looking at NixOS and Void, both seem pretty cool in their own way.
Are there community packages like the arch repos? I’ve come to rely on those in Manjaro, like I rely on 3rd party PPAs in Ubuntu.
No reason, really. I’m not part of the “hate on Manjaro” club.
I got started with Manjaro because I was looking for an Arch-like experience, but with better distro management, curated packages, etc. I’ve had some of my best PC gaming experiences on Manjaro with Luttis and Proton, it is a great Linux gaming distro.The distro managers have definitely let me down more than once, most notably when they wouldn’t ship KDE Plasma 5.25 when it was released citing “stability concerns”, and then doing the same thing with Plasma 5.27. But those issues are behind us, and didn’t affect me too badly (I just needed to wait 6 weeks until the next release to get my updates). I’ve come to realise through my use of Manjaro that I actually always want to use it like Arch. Often things I want to install are not available in the Manjaro repos, but are available on AUR. Then installing from AUR sometimes depends on things that are not in Manjaro repos. It gets messy, and I should just use Arch.
But rather than moving to Arch, I think I am itching to move to something completely different, and NixOS and Void are about as different as it gets.
What’s the point of AlmaLinux if not for 1:1 RHEL compatibility? Might as well use CoreOS Stream cause the compatibility is good enough. Time to switch to Rocky Linux I guess.
Good for Alma, I say. Why base your business model on RedHat not finding a way to kill it? RedHat is a de facto enterprise standard in part because of the existence of free source-rebuild distributions allowing for small FOSS developers to ensure compatibility. They said so themselves, they want users to either switch to another distribution or pay for RedHat. So let’s give them what they want and abandon RHEL compatibility.
I don’t think that “let’s all abandon RHEL so it becomes irrelevant” is the appropriate response here. It’s a matter of freedom and principles. If RHEL exists, a compatible, free and unencumbered alternative should be allowed to exist as well.
RedHat thinks they shouldn’t exist, and is trying to maneuver within legal limits to ensure they don’t exist. It’s not that I agree with RedHat that the compatible clones shouldn’t exist. It’s that I think RedHat’s actions are duplicitous enough that we should no longer see RHEL compatibility as a goal to care about. Much the same way Google has taken actions to distance itself from a dependence on Java after Oracle went all APIs-are-patentable rampage. Why engage with an entity who has a stated goal of ending your existence?
Also, Alma doesn’t have a business model in the same way that Debian doesn’t have a business model. The Alma Linux OS Foundation is a non-profit organization.
I knew there was a foundation behind Alma but hadn’t looked into them too much, as I was already thinking of continuing to target RHEL compatibility may have poor business continuity after they killed CentOS as a free RHEL clone.
That depends on which “we” you talk about. Personally, yes, I have moved everything that I had away from RHEL-derivatives towards Debian after the CentOS debacle 2 years ago, and I would recommend anyone else to do the same.
So we’re in “violent” agreement.
it’s also a matter of principle: “we”, as in the community as a whole, can’t let this stand.
Right. We just have a difference of opinion on how to stand against RedHat’s actions here.
Rocky has announced their plan to continue as a 1:1 source rebuild. They’re looking at using sources from RedHat’s Universal Base Image Docker images, and also using cloud instances with consumption based pricing. With the latter option you spin up an instance on AWS/Azure/DigitalOcean/etc and it has a license for that instance, so you get the sources for the package versions on that instance. But since the license was temporary, then there’s nothing for RHEL to terminate when you redistribute the sources.
RedHat says they don’t want clones of RHEL. I say give it to them, lets have a landscape where they’re no longer the de facto standard because there are no other distributions targeting RHEL compatibility.
For me the console API is just horrible. Also idk if it is a packaging problem but a lot of things I tried in the past were a lot bugier than my distro package
I love GNOME more than any other DE. I like how it works very well with keyboard shortcuts. The only extensions I use are the weather and the tray icons.
@bahmanm@usb_see Is openSUSE MicroOS out of beta and ready for productive use? Haven’t read any news about it lately (I am on openSUSE Leap, so interested)
I’m not using it myself as am on Tumbelweed but I do know it’s quite similar to the idea OP is talking about. Oh and I couldn’t find any references to it being beta on the website 🤷♂️
it’s been 18 years full time linux/bsd for me and it went knoppix -> ubuntu -> fedora -> arch linux -> gentoo -> freebsd -> void
arch linux in 2008 was really good, and lasted for a couple of years. gentoo was a chore, because it’s fully source based. freebsd is rock solid, amazing amazing system, i would be still using it if it weren’t for aec applications and games. still using it on my homeserver.
void is blazing fast, highly reliable rolling release package system, amazingly simple init system. i have a 3060ti and it’s working surprisingly good on wayland. it’s just hassle-free for me, i love it.
yeah, with wi-fi. i didn’t have any issues using wifi. like i said earlier, some applications don’t have freebsd versions and manually compiling and keeping them update is a lot of hassle. other than that highly reliable system.
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