I’m not happy with RedHat neither. And Fedora 40 considering to add telemetry doesn’t help. I love Fedora tho, but if RHEL keeps heading the way is going I’ll hop to another distro.
Maybe is time to try Arch and embrace the meme (and learn, I’m a lil scared)
Learn to never trust a corporation, no matter how “good” they are. Corporations exist for profit only, that is the only reason why they exist and function.
Better SUSE than Oracle I guess so we will see how this works out. But in general it is good (and even in Red Hat’s interest) if more people invest into the development of a stable enterprise Linux release instead of leaching off Red Hat’s contributions.
This isnt good for Red hat. Its a hard fork that will be compatible with rhel, basically a new Centos, with SUSE marketing and branding all over it. Even the announcement mentions 5 other SUSE products for the enterprise while offering an alternative to rhel.
I think maybe to point out that SUSE is already the second largest enterprise Linux provider in the market. They already studied RHEL code, this would have been a gentleman’s agreement broken not to outright copy each other. RHEL will easily copy SLES improvements and incorporate it into their own code, but SUSE will gain marketshare.
Just because they said that they don’t think RHEL clones contribute to the RHEL ecosystem doesn’t mean that it is entirely true. Are you new to PR speak?
Yet they consistently say that other contributions to Linux are very welcome and help RHEL, CentOS stream and everyone else. I think you have a strong case of selective memory and reading comprehension that only sees what fits into your pre-determined world-view 😜
Fossil I’ve never tried, but I utterly hate git. Nothing about how it works makes sense to me. Mercurial is, in my opinion, better-designed and easier to understand for my rather simple use cases. (I should note that I graduated from university around the time svn was replacing csv, so I was coding before there was such a thing as distributed version control.)
Flatpak was started by RH employee but has been developed with significant community effort.
Flatpak uses ostree, which was originally created in GNOME for GNOME OS. And GNOME has contributors not only from RH but form Endless, Collabora, Purism and others.
Flatpak can work with OCI remotes, this is what RH more interested in. And Flathub uses only ostree. OCI remotes are used in Fedora Flatpaks repacked from fedora packages with the runtime based on fedora. But who use it anyway.
Flathub itself is independent community effort. It uses org.freedesktop.Platform based runtimes which are not based on any distro.
XDG Portals are shaped by Flathub maintainers and applications developers where RH also doesn’t play significant role.
This is hilarious considering one of the main reasons IBM is clamping down on RHEL is because they are literally taking RHEL, changed the stickers to “Oracle” and calls it a day to sell their own propietary shit. Of course they are against RedHat closing down RHEL, they need it to compile Oracle Linux.
I don’t like what RedHat is doing (or IBM, however you want to see it) but cheering for Oracle on this particular issue is just wrong
If you’re using a software suite that requires Oracle Database, it and RHEL are safe options. It’s used where I work for that reason, but only relating to said software. This vendor officially supports those 2 distros, and to a lesser extent Windows.
It would be corporate clients that are already all on Oracle for their careers. I’ve met guys that have built their entire career on Oracle and if you suggest any other software they’ll try to politically assassinate you. Some people just care about money not the work they do.
Me neither. And I always wondered why you wouldn’t just go directly to the source and go with RedHat for enterprise usecases. Perhaps cheaper support contracts?
We struggled with red hat because our product is usually in airgapped installations. We know how many we’ve sold, but we don’t know how many are still in use.
Say a customer buys one unit. Then 5 years later, they replace it. And 5 years on, they replace it again. On the books that’s 3 sold. We don’t know that two were retired, we don’t know these are all the same installation. So red hat wants us to pay 3 annual licences for this, and those licences don’t end until we can prove the installation was retired. The costs effectively snowball indefinitely.
We wanted to pay - it was the easiest route to certain federal qualifications. But we couldn’t come to an agreement on how to pay.
One must be really far from linux to choose oracle linux among hundreds of available distros
Not really a choice when the products they sell (their database/cloud solutions) are tied to it or RHEL. But yeah, I doubt there’s many who’d call it their favorite distro
Mostly their Oracle Database customers (which aren’t few), I suppose. There are many which will fire up a Oracle Linux vm on their servers to install Oracle database, mostly because its “easier” and Oracle gives some support for those.
Anyone who uses Oracle Cloud is either directly or indirectly using Oracle Linux. Oracle Cloud is ~2% of the cloud market, so it’s small compared to the big three (AWS ~32%, Azure ~23%, GCP 10% according to this report) but 2% of a very big market ($237 billion total estimated for 2023) is still a significant user base.
From my own work, most of the Oracle Cloud adoption I see appears to be driven by favourable prices for Exadata Cloud as compared to purchasing on-prem Exadata hardware. Oracle Linux is also baked into Exadata “Cloud-at-Customer”, which has essentially the same cloud control plane but the hardware and all data lives on-prem at the customer’s site. That seems fairly popular with customers who want Exadata performance but can’t allow their data to leave their premises for security reasons.
A lot of company behind the scence do, with Oracle DB… even there are RHEL, they opt to use OL because it’s free, and they only need to pay the DB License…
If we’re going about what’s technically permitted, then RedHat is also permitted to change licence, close it down and stop any new versions from being open or free. All their development goes into the upstream so I don’t even know what Oracle is trying to say here. Except “we want open access to RHEL, not just upstream sources like CentOS”.
I bought a brother laser printer 20 (??) years ago and it’s still working beautifully. Was the budget model at that time. So definitely under 150. Maybe even 100.
It is indeed, I tried to go straight WM (i3) but I’m not used to it so I installed xfce which I’m familiar with (I’m also using it on my server running Lubuntu).
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