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Diplomjodler3 ,

Yeah, after 22 years at Microsoft in a senior position, you should be able to retire and do whatever the fuck you want as a hobby. I very highly doubt this guy will ever make significant money from goose farming.

Omgpwnies ,

Are you saying his income will be … ahem … a goose-egg?

CodexArcanum ,

I feel like the progression of my “Programming shelf” says a lot about my career trajectory as well.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/96859129-48e7-4305-ad90-6c69d2f8dc96.jpeg

bl_r ,

What are those books on Doom and Wolfenstein? Is it the game development black book by sanglard? That’s the book I found with a bit of searching

CodexArcanum ,

Yes, those are the Game Engine Black Books (Doom|Wolfenstein) by Fabien Sanglard. Highly recommended for anyone interested in games, programming, and history. They are amazing time capsules of those games and the development environments that produced them. I think/hope he’s working on GEBB: Quake and I’m so excited for him to eventually release it!

Pencilnoob ,
@Pencilnoob@lemmy.world avatar

This looks uncannily like my shelf, I’m trying to buy land now for my permaculture forest 😭

Schmoo ,

The programmer to homesteader pipeline is real.

Screamium ,

Just know that complete self sufficiency is a pipe dream, whereas community sufficiency is much more achievable

Daxtron2 ,

You read some Thoreau and immediately wanted to leave society behind lol, I see you took his lessons to heart.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

alas, many of us will never reach goose-farm level success

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sfxrlz ,

Jokes on programming. Hated life before being forced into it…

Edit: it meaning programming. This isn’t supposed to be that edgy.

Asafum ,

Just try being uneducated and working in a dead end factory job while having hated life all your life anyway!

Much fun! -46/10 would never recommend!

I wish I was forced into programming… I tried on my own and just don’t have the mind for it, I find it incredibly boring. All my friends are in the field and all work from home wherever the hell they want to live. I’m stuck in a VHCOL area with shit income and 0 potential to increase it :(

sfxrlz ,

Yeah well I was „forced“ into it by an injury and one my parents working at the university. I never finished my degree so in that sense I’m also uneducated.

I didn’t have the mind for Uni stuff either esp. the maths stuff. There are so many areas. I just liked doing webdev stuff in my freetime and that landed me a few jobs.

Asafum ,

I’m sorry you’ve had to suffer an injury! From what I understand, your experience now and your interest outside of work counts for more than the paper degree so if you do choose to continue that path I wouldn’t worry too much about being uneducated. Good luck, I hope you find happiness in whatever you do!

sfxrlz ,

Thank you very much! Yess school has never been for me but I’ve only been diagnosed with adhd when I was 21. so I’ve always struggled. I don’t know if it’s the perfect place for me, I’m still struggling from time to time, but let’s be honest who doesn’t. I never thought I could work 8 hours when I was younger. But here we are. So hopefully you can also find something you enjoy doing. And I wish the best for you too. Thanks again!

kautau ,

Yeah that sounds way more enjoyable, but first you need the 250k and up salary that a principal engineer at MS makes for 20 years, then you have plenty of equity to focus on whatever your hobby is

GissaMittJobb ,

Average 350k according to levels.fyi.

I was expecting higher for principal tbh

kautau ,

I think MS like other big tech companies has started to run out of “senior” positions without paying more so many people just end up as “senior” principal engineers which is basically “this is as far as you can go if you don’t want to get involved in management”

jam12705 ,

This isn’t a shit post, its the truth

CodexArcanum ,

You ever been around geese? Those terrible shits take shits everywhere, all the time. Loud, nasty birds.

jam12705 ,

Currently have 26 ducks and one goose on my farm so I get it.

Rai ,

Peak performance. I love them.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Wtf does a goose farmer even produce

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

geese

its the last layer for my gooturducken

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds incredibly niche. Why not raise chickens or ducks :/

Bread ,

Bigger eggs and more meat. The cobra chicken is also a great security system.

darthelmet ,

Maybe they’re raising an army of nature’s angriest animal.

frezik ,

You say that, but have you ever met a Sandhill Crane? They started coming back, and people think they’re wonderful and majestic. Then they get too close, and find out they’re feathery balls of pure hate with pointy beaks that will send you to the emergency room.

Appreciate Sandhills from a distance.

Mouselemming ,

Maybe if enough programmers become goose farmers they’ll be able to reprogram geese.

SpaceNoodle ,

You ever been around Microsoft management? It’s an improvement.

werefreeatlast ,

Yes, with AI anything is possible!

lemming741 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ecf2edfe-f7fc-47b2-a828-e50b9def346f.png

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40726974

MeatsOfRage ,

The Venn diagram overlap of senior+ programmers and farmers is oddly large

lowleveldata ,

I feel like we are all agreeing here

henfredemars ,

We have a principal software engineer who is a part-time farmer. He has chickens and cows.

peopleproblems ,

Man I’m starting to think I’ve got the wrong hobbies. Maybe I do need to get out more.

VonReposti ,

That’s what a year of being a software architect does to you.

SzethFriendOfNimi ,

22 years. 1 year is chicken farmer, 10 is ducks, 15 is, oddly, Alpacas, and 20 is geese.

Quill7513 ,

You spent all those years down in the trenches implementing bullshit designs an architect came up with, positive you could do better if you just got the chance. Then you go to graduate school to get the qualifications companies say you need to be an architect. You receive a masters degree. You’re your companies leading expert on software design. You get promoted to architect.

That’s when you find out the truth. All those previous architects left for the same reason you someday will. It wasn’t the previous architects making the terrible decisions that frustrated you. It was the marketing team and the CEO telling the CTO that the software product must have certain buzzwords present in the design. Those buzzwords offer no value to what your software product is meant to accomplish. But if you don’t put them in the designs, they’ll fire you and hire someone who will play their games.

Eventually, you can’t take it anymore. Having interfaced with the upper levels of your company, and having the understanding of systems engineering you do, you realize that every software firm will be this. There is nowhere you can go that will be better. You start saving.

Your goal is to save enough money to purchase a small plot of land and put an organic farm on it. Your convictions for this farm are simple: it must be able to feed your family. This may not be exclusively what you envision for it, and you may not even intend for it to be the only source of food for your family, but it will help you be less reliant on the kinds of corporation you’ve come to know and come to see as irrevocably evil.

And then sometimes, you get people like this in the post. Who find enough success farming to focus their energy on it exclusively.

peopleproblems ,

I was in my first architecture review meeting this week.

The accuracy is infuriating and humbling.

vinnymac ,

Might be one of the few times a Lemmy post related to me.

I have owned a farm for four years, and do engineering for fun. AMA

TheImpressiveX ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

How did you get into owning a farm, and what led you to engineering?

vinnymac ,

My grandfather is/was an electrician for over 60 years. Worked on very important projects in New York City. This rubbed off on me growing up. I spent much of my childhood taking things apart, figuring out how they worked, and putting them back together how I liked. I’ve been working on both hardware and software since I was 11. Had the privilege to study CS formally in high school, and Computer Engineering in university.

Good timing mostly got me into farming, especially since interest rates fell to the floor during the pandemic. Had enough to buy the acreage I wanted, and the wife was interested in helping out. We grow a variety of things now, and not just plants. For example we sell Honey, Soaps, Walnuts, and Mushrooms. It can be hard on the body to be so active all the time, but it is more satisfying than a monitor staring back at you at 3am because of some small incident.

I continue to tinker, and assist startups in my spare time, I can’t imagine I will ever stop programming.

gravitas_deficiency ,
  • rake in the lake
postnataldrip ,

Honestly jealous

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