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xx3rawr ,

Duo is not sad. Just disappointed. Duo gives you seven days to live.

Honytawk ,

The notification makes it look like they got hit in the head.

FiniteBanjo ,

huh, the wrinkles go away when I enlarge the image for viewing.

ImplyingImplications ,

Duolingo regularly changes their app icon to weird things. It’s not done to get users to buy things. It’s so you post the icon on social media as a form a free advertising. The company really loves that their mascot has become a meme and play into it.

humbletightband ,

Evil corporate wants us to fucking birdwatch

Passerby6497 ,

Good thing birds aren’t real.

Grass ,

Isn’t that a bad thing? I thought that was the whole point, if you separate the part where the guy was just doing a social experiment to see if people would buy into total nonsense.

Fandangalo ,

Why evil? I’m not a capitalist, but it’s a language learning company being silly; they aren’t causing massive injustice.

humbletightband ,

This is an engagement app. The goal of the app is to exploit your behavioral patterns to enforce your engagement; to force you open the app everyday. And as a by-product you may learn the language Or may not, I don’t know anyone who has learned a language using it among my ~10 friends who were trying to do so using this app.

Fandangalo ,

Many things are designed for engagement, so what’s your point? Some people use Lemmy like Reddit and care about internet points that don’t matter. “The rising number is designed to exploit your behavioral patterns and enforce your engagement.” Instead of daily, it’s multiple times, but the point is you can paint many business models like this.

People download the app to get better at a skill. It’s designed to be effective at doing that. It’s a skill people want to learn. How is that exploitive or manipulative?

Full warning: I’ve worked in game design and F2P for like 10 years. I know there’s some personal bias, but there are much worse examples of this stuff than Duolingo or whatever. Painting good actors as bad actors is not correct.

The anecdote part at the end is irrelevant for both of us. I have the opposite experience and don’t even use this app: a bunch of my friends seem to all use it for learning languages. /shrug

Ginger666 ,

The sheeple gotta stop giving free advertising to corporations

bquintb ,
@bquintb@midwest.social avatar

They’re always doing creepy shit with that bird

gndagreborn ,
@gndagreborn@lemmy.world avatar

He just wants to talk with you about your Spanish lessons. In an alley. In the inner city. At night.

ZombieMantis ,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

With a baseball bat. Politely.

SuperIce ,

The Spanish or Vanish ad is terrifying. I don’t know how the marketing team got permission to have “I love the taste of human flesh” in Spanish as one of the lyrics in the song.

orphiebaby ,

This scared my housemate too. It’s manipulation to get you to continue, so you buy their subscriptions and/or microtransactions. I love Duolingo, but fuck this manipulation shit.

ObviouslyNotBanana OP ,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

Personally all it did for me was make me uninstall the app years ago (this picture has been appropriated for comedic use)

orphiebaby ,

Fair.

FeatherConstrictor ,

I mean, of all the ways to manipulate people into paying money on an app, I feel like changing the app icon to draw attention is fairly benign?

orphiebaby ,

It’s a [accidentally(?) nightmare-fuel] sad face designed to get you back in so you spend money. It might not be the worst thing ever, but it’s still pretty gross. Also the app is used by children.

520 ,

Also the app is used by children.

It's not scary in any way though? Or inappropriate for kids in any way?

Calling it nightmare fuel is quite the stretch tbh. It's like calling a 6ft basketball player incredibly tall.

Rubanski ,

Wrinkly people are nightmare fuel apparently

clark ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

i love this out of context lmao

Theme ,

True

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

well it’s a language learning app so a little bit of motivation to use the thing like every day can be a great thing for the user

orphiebaby ,

Emotional manipulation wouldn’t be a good way, especially not a face that scares the shit out of people (I can’t even look at it, as I’m sensitive to uncanny valley and distorted faces, especially the kinds of sad or scared faces 1940s cartoons used to freak you out. My nightmares often have these in them). Especially not so that it can get you back to spending money, and tripley-especially not so that it can get you back to spending microtransactions.

Lumisal ,

I, uhh, I think you need desensitization therapy. But just so you know, most people don’t find that face scary.

orphiebaby ,

Twisting faces-- especially to look morbidly-depressed or horrified-- is a common tactic in horror. In fact, it works because of the uncanny valley effect-- a psychological phenomenon that exists to protect us from disease and from breeding with deformed people. And you know who’s more sensitive to uncanny valley than average? Autistic people. Like me. There’s no therapy for this because it’s neither weird nor solvable.

Lumisal ,

It’s weird to have that strong of a reaction. At the very least it sounds debilitating.

Wrinkly Duo just looks like an old person version of Duo to most. It’s not even uncanny valley because Duo is not even close to human like (unless you know green bird like humans in real life, but then I’m not sure they’re human).

If that scares you, so would a very wrinkly old person.

There is therapy to lower that extreme reaction you have, called desensitization therapy. You should look into it.

orphiebaby , (edited )

It’s weird to have that strong of a reaction. At the very least it sounds debilitating.

It’s not debilitating, it just means I don’t watch horror or thrillers.

It’s not even uncanny valley because Duo is not even close to human like (unless you know green bird like humans in real life, but then I’m not sure they’re human).

Okay, so that’s the point. The very definition of the uncanny valley is it maps a graph. You go from something that doesn’t look human at all, and then the closer you get to human, the more appealing it looks, until it looks completely human. Except when you start getting much closer and you’re not quite there, there’s a dip in the graph where it’s suddenly horrifying before it gets better. That’s the “valley”. That’s why clowns, marionettes, dolls, zombies, and yeah, sometimes very wrinkly old people are horrifying. Their faces are twisted, distorted, and/or malformed just enough to be horrifying. Studies show that even monkeys have the uncanny valley reaction when you distort a face in front of them. And the Duolingo owl is not just an owl-- its face takes on decidedly human expressions, which can therefore be uncanny valley. Hell, some monkeys’/apes’ natural faces themselves tiptoe on uncanny valley for me as it is.

Now, some people are less sensitive/don’t often see uncanny valley as much as average, while people like me are more sensitive to it. It doesn’t mean the valley doesn’t exist, or that I have a weird problem-- it’s just that some people are more sensitive to faces. It’s why autistic people are known for not making eye contact, yeah? With that said, it is not a debilitating problem. I live with it, I know which things I deal with are big problems (and there are several), and this isn’t one of them.

bradorsomething ,

I know, what’s up with too-old lingo?

FQQD ,
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

Same, what’s this about anyway? xd

I_Fart_Glitter ,

Same. The bird is dying because you haven’t completed a lesson in a long time. He so sad… only you can cheer him up.

Edit: I just completed three lessons and he still looks haggard, so I don’t know what that little fucker wants. Probably for us all to purchase the paid version.

Robin ,

I have the paid version, I’m on a 109 day streak, and the stupid bird still looks like that. Must be a bug

L0wded_ ,
@L0wded_@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think they just changed the icon to show that duo was sad/bored to get you to open it again. It’ll be there regardless of if you use it frequently or not.

InfiniteFlow ,
@InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world avatar

1643 day streak here, and it still looks like it’s going to die on me any second now. I guess it was just an icon change (but… why?!)

CorvidCawder ,

Just use the icon from the streak society…

halcyoncmdr ,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just the newest icon update. They change the icon every once in a while to get people to open the app again.

It has nothing to do with your actual usage.

I_Fart_Glitter ,

Well it worked, I just sat through three commercials trying to perk him up. And now I want Taco Bell. Fuck.

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