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Novman ,

And an huge colonial empire ( europe/japan/korea )

rayquetzalcoatl ,
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

Nice to see that even here - a shitposting forum - whenever anybody posts anything negative about America, yanks can’t handle it.

trekman10 ,
@trekman10@union.place avatar

I love how it's full of people whining about having left reddit to escape this shit like bruh this is the fediverse

geissi ,

Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

Zithero ,

Yep… And every time there’s an employment issue for the agricultural industry, they whip out the prisoners…

However to the prisoner’s credit: They do an absolutely terrible job at whatever it is they’re doing.

Why? What are they going to do… Fire you? Jail you? You have no incentive at all to do the job well as a prisoner.

Bonus is by doing a horrific job it makes employers less likely to actually request prison workforces.

elouboub ,
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

Is there a community that exclusively shits on the US on the threadiverse?

ilikekeyboards ,

-be the “first in the world” -everywhere you go yell “USA! USA! USA!” -sparking people’s curiosity and they look into your garden -they find a dystopian horror show, a land where billionaires are kings, millions deprived of liberty, hundred millions depraved of healthcare, an ever increasing tumour of fascists group that wish for some women and minorities to have fewer rights

-ohshit.jpg

You can’t have the biggest running circus without everyone starring and complaining and debating.

BurtsBS ,

Tell me you’ve learned everything you know about the US from 13 year olds online without telling me you learned everything you know from 13 year olds online.

pizzatime ,

he’s not wrong though. like, the mass shooting yesterday was something like the 340th so far this year? the place is fucking nuts

BurtsBS ,

Now remove gang violence.

pizzatime ,

hmmm so what, only like 20 then? you’re right, that’s absolutely an acceptable amount of mass shootings in the first half of the year.

totally normal and something every country experiences. my bad.

eltimablo ,

How can America have 25% of the world's prison population of the entire country doesn't make up even 10% of the world's population?

bdonvr ,

Well see, that’s kinda the point of the post.

We’re “the land of the free” but also the land of the most non-free people.

ImplyingImplications ,

Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

TheRaven ,
@TheRaven@lemmy.ca avatar

Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

bighi ,

Only for people that are black or poor.

httpjames ,
@httpjames@sh.itjust.works avatar

And house arrest is being used for mass incarceration of people being ACCUSED before conviction. The punishment can be more severe before conviction.

nothingcorporate OP ,

And many states let private companies charge accused people up to $40 a day for the ankle bracelets.

httpjames ,
@httpjames@sh.itjust.works avatar

Did you also watch that Vice documentary?

Sternout ,

Wtf Do they get it back if found not guilty? Do you have a source?

PMmesexypajamas ,

Uhh…nope.

Also…about 25% of the people incarcerated in America aren’t even convicted of a crime yet.

Even if they’re found innocent, it’s likely already cost them their job or made it so they are so far behind on bills from not working that it becomes next to impossible to climb out from under

cornbread ,

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

frickityfracktictac ,

True, however there are bs for-profit elements to even the non-for-profit prisons. Predatory costs to calling / commissary / etc. that still benefit companies when the US imprisons more people.

cornbread ,

Absolutely. We need a prison reform.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Even “not for profit” prisons are lining millionaires pockets with infrastructure and maintenance contracts.

Hypersapien ,

Only about 8% of the US prison population is in for-profit prisons.

bdonvr ,

And how many of these other prisons offer up their prisoners as extremely cheap labor to businesses that ARE for profit?

andthenthreemore ,
@andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

That’s still about 96,344 people. Which is nearly double the total prison population of Spain.

WheeGeetheCat ,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

Listen I live in the USA, but if thats your best pushback to all those facts - should tell you what a dire state we are in. And prisons that aren’t for profit still send out prisoners to for-profit industries to work, so it’s kind of a moot point.

Hypersapien ,

I’m also in the US and I’m aware of all of this.

Player2 ,

👍

Fedizen ,

california spending 100k+ per prisoner but renting them out for pennies is one of the insane unsustainable aspects of the system and then going and saying “we can’t afford to let them out” is mind numbing.

The whole circus is just to keep wages down and arrest anybody folks don’t want in their shitty suburb.

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