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sombrero , in PC Games to play in local co-op?

I was a bit confused when you said local co-op. It implies 2 computers on the same local network(connected to the same router, no internet connection required). I think the term you’re looking for is split screen gaming.

When I looked at pictures of Spelunky games like Clonk and Liero popped into mind, I think there are options for split screen multiplayer in those games, they’re old school PvP games.

ono ,

I was a bit confused when you said local co-op. It implies 2 computers on the same local network

My friends call that LAN play or LAN co-op. To me, local co-op has always been a more general phrase, covering all of the above.

Laconic , in Dungeons and Drag Queens Debuts a Fabulous, Fearsome Foursome

Based Brennan

EremesZorn , in Describe a game in 5 words or less, and see if anyone can guess it.

Cyborg space ninjas. War crimes.

draggeta ,

Warframe?

ondoyant , in Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week
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I’m just waiting until these models get completely unraveled by training on output. The more people use generative AI to make stuff online, the more useless the internet is as a data source.

Cylinsier , in Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week
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The enshitification of the internet continues. How can we offer our content, but without having to pay anyone for it and at a much higher rate of delivery? By not giving a fuck about the quality anymore and not having any real competition so people have no choice. Except people always have a choice. We can walk away.

Pegatron ,
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I don't see why people would even go to a site to read AI generated articles and be bombarded with ads. I could just ask an AI to write an article for me? Just cut out the middle man at that point.

interolivary ,
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I don’t see why people would even go to a site to read AI generated articles and be bombarded with ads.

Doesn’t have to be voluntary on the user’s part. Maybe they clicked a link on Google? Or maybe a site they’ve been reading for ages suddenly switches to “AI editors” and it’s never really announced to the users in a clear way

Jimmycrackcrack ,

The sites don’t mention the AI authorship, so you go there to read an article, likely one you found linked elsewhere, only to be baffled by the ramblings.

mizmoose , in What are you playing this week?

Same thing I play every week. Coral Island and RCT3.

Coral Island is in Steam Early Access and is as yet unfinished, but is making steady progress and the devs are doing great at keeping everyone up to date on progress. Coral Island is frequently compared to Stardew Valley. Frankly, I don’t enjoy SDV. I’ve tried and tried and it just doesn’t do it for me. Coral Island is everything I was hoping SDV would be. It’s game play is similar, but I find the whole thing much more enjoyable.

I’ve been playing RCT3 off and on since I first bought it on CD a million years ago.

Kongar , in What are you playing this week?

Tears of the kingdom - little late to the party but it’s a fun game.

TheTrueLinuxDev , in Star Trek: Infinite Gameplay Trailer Brings Grand Strategy to TNG

Just want to point out that we already have a Star Trek mod for Stellaris and it is still actively maintained by the community. It already have custom models, lore, species, and everything else in the game anyway. It offers more than what I would suspects that this game would offer:

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/8ead996c-5211-4641-a254-11049dabdc95.png

Seriously, try it out.

CandidCamel , in Casual game recommendations?

Dorfromantik is a very chill puzzle game that runs great on Steam Deck if that’s your thing, a favourite of mine while the TV is going in the background.

If you’re into factory games I 1000% recommend Shapez, which is a shape-building game that doesn’t have the notion of grinding or currency or running out of resources. It’s immensely satisfying when you get the perfect mechanism together and you’re churning out shapes. Definitely one for mouse and keyboard though.

lunasloth ,
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Definitely recommend Dorfromantik! Islanders is another super chill casual game (and also a builder) that I started and fell in love with the other day.

JZshark , in Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week
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Considering how many blogs are just AI generated garbage now, it doesn’t surprise me that the big players are looking to automate their articles.

The issue is that AI can’t really create… it just remakes what it already knows and has seen before. No hot takes. No new ideas. Just whatever has been done before.

Hopefully this isn’t the new way everything goes…

DreamerOfImprobableDreams ,

Also, Chat GPT at least still writes at the level of a somewhat talented ninth grader. Its prose is stilted, and the way it structures essays and stories is super formulaic.

It's absolutely not at the level it can replace a talented human writer yet. (I have no doubt that day is coming, probably sooner than we think, but it's not here yet.)

So publishers making the switch will see the quality of their content drop, and with it the number of clicks / revenue they get. Enough to offset the salaries of all the writers they fired? Probably depends on the publication. For clickbait farms, probably not, but the higher quality the readers are used to the more the publishers stand to lose.

toadmode ,

doesn’t the average american read at a 6th grade level or something?

DrWeevilJammer ,
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54% (130 million) Americans read BELOW the equivalent of a 6th grade level.

A lot of the reason for this is chronic underfunding of K-12 ESL programs in southern states and California.

SteelCorrelation , in Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week

So now I know which sites to ignore completely from now on.

rockprada ,

Probably wouldn’t hurt to blacklist links from sites known to produce only AI generated articles.

Lowbird ,

I want a ublock origin list for this.

SemioticStandard , in Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week
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This is fucking gross. There’s no one who thinks people will read the mass shit they pump out.

AineLasagna ,

A lot of sites like these are already just click farms with “articles” consisting of a headline and a couple poorly-researched sentences. Switching to AI probably won’t significantly change the quality of what they’re churning out.

SemioticStandard ,
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Right. That’s why searching for anything on the internet SUCKS these days. The results are all just filler bullshit.

Nullroad ,
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Something to keep in mind is that these companies aren’t concerned with total profit or revenue or anything like that - it’s all about the percentage. I suspect in the short term, these AI-articles will look very profitable. Networking effects, consumer habits, and SEO will carry the day for a time.

But what always screws these MBA types is the inability to recognize the specific natures of their business and the second order effects. Not all costs are representable on a spread-sheet.

Basically, the second order to me really boils down to this: AI generated content isn’t really a ‘brand’. Good writing shops tend to build a following with their writers and expectations with their editors. The writing, investigative, and editorial bent of a house is essentially what makes a shop. See The Economist and The New Yorker as examples. In other places, a lot of niche shops are selling personality as much as product with youtube, podcasts, and others.

this means there is no real ‘value add’ someone like an AI shop can provide. You are throwing yourselves down the hole of becoming a pure commodity, and as every business major knows, being a commodity sucks. Short term profitable, but literally no one cares about where a mass produced nail comes from and its a race to the bottom of price.

So, as time goes on, with the barrier for entry being incredibly low, every bill and joe who fancies themselves an SEO wizard has no reason to not jump in, so your competition rises and your ability to charge some value for (ads?) drops a lot. But that’s the tip of the iceberg. Many of the companies that would occupy this brandless, commodity-filling space are way better positioned to make a run at it than the GAMURS Groups of the world. Microsoft’s Bing chat and (probably soon to follow Bard) will whip your ass in the long-game. Why search Bing to get an AI article from the Escapist when Bing will do it for me? I really doubt anything churned out by an AI with some edits will be that much better per convenience.

This whole could easily collapse in on itself. Like a lot of people in the AI space, I’m interested to watch what happens when AI begins to consume and be built on its own content.

SemioticStandard ,
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Basically, the second order to me really boils down to this: AI generated content isn’t really a ‘brand’. Good writing shops tend to build a following with their writers and expectations with their editors. The writing, investigative, and editorial bent of a house is essentially what makes a shop. See The Economist and The New Yorker as examples. In other places, a lot of niche shops are selling personality as much as product with youtube, podcasts, and others.

Yep. This is why I’ve been a paying subscriber to Ars Technica for over a decade. You’re exactly correct. Ditto with NPR.

Astongt615 , in Casual game recommendations?

Many roguelites could fall into this category, and are generally cheap to boot (i.e. vampire survivors).

limeaide ,

Any other games that you recommend?

Astongt615 ,

I would just look through any number of online list of “Best Swarm Survivors”. There’s dozens of different themes and tweaks from the VS formula, including boat and train varieties! I also watch the YouTube channel Never Nathaniel as he’s a pretty awesome source of both info and entertainment on the matter (as well as other games). He’s literally the only streamer I’ve watched and I couldn’t tell you why, his formula just works.

Astongt615 ,

One more that is outside of the swarm survival genre, Child of Light. Though there is a fun and endearing story that irecommend, once you get through the first 20 minutes, you can kind of just not care and enjoy the simple but interesting play style of an almost-turned-based RPG.

nihilx7E3 , in How long does a steam refund typically take?
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I thought this would be an automated process.

not entirely. while steam does auto approve refunds for games that are both owned less than 14 days & played less than 2 hours (not sure if this part is automated or if they train staff to just glance at the playtime & click refund in their ticket system), they still have a refund department to vet & process refunds that fall outside of that category. they’ll send you an email if what you’re refunding doesn’t fit the criteria for automatic approval:

Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any title that is requested within 14 days of purchase and has been played for less than 2 hours (this includes online, offline and shared library playtime).

if you played the game for over 2 hours, even if it’s just by one minute, your request is gonna be in limbo for a while until a support team member gets to it. i’ve had it happen a few times over the years & in my experience it takes anywhere from like 1 or 2 days to as many as 5, depending on how busy it is (steam sales seem to slow them down). i’ve also heard from some on the steam community that even when a refund is auto approved it can sometimes still get stuck in the system for a few days.

followthewhiterabbit OP ,

That’s the strange part. A few days old and a total of 4 minutes play-time!

I just hope its maybe stuck in the system, like you said, for a few days.

I can’t be frustrated, because the system exists for our benefit, I think I’m just mystified why it is taking some time!

nihilx7E3 ,
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yeah, i’d contact steam if it’s really bothering you but otherwise just wait. steam support is one of the chillest cs teams i’ve ever dealt with so you shouldn’t have any problem either way. also keep in mind a few popular games are on sale atm so they might just be processing some more than usual

followthewhiterabbit OP ,

Yep, it was 100% a ‘bigger’ game, so I’m sure I’m just stuck somewhere in the mix. Everything I click in the support pages just takes me back to my already requested request for a refund, so can’t even reach any live chat support.

My main take-away is to just be patient (it’s so not in my nature!)

Appreciate your input and help by the way!

iam8bitwolf , in What's your favorite car game? Arcade and sim, I just want to know!
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Ridge Racer Type 4. Beautiful controls, amazing soundtrack, just an amazing game

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