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Annoyed_Crabby ,

Risk of Rain 2 is developed by just 8 people. It’s a game that I don’t regret buying early access because the early access till 1.0 is the smoothest sailing i’ve ever seen for a game. I have a pretty old pc that’s low spec even back then, the game just run smoothly.

And of course a multibillion company is the one messing thing up.

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t realize Gearbox had any part in it. Are they just the publisher?

breadguyyy ,

no it's being developed by an internal team now

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, that sucks

breadguyyy ,

they're not that bad, they had been working with hopoo for a while before the IP sale

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

The article says otherwise

Annoyed_Crabby ,

They bought the IP from hopoo a few years ago, and this DLC is 100% by Gearbox internal dev.

CodexArcanum ,

Man that is the saddest thing. I really loved that series, sounds like it’s cooked.

MossyFeathers ,

Maybe the most significant issue is that, for some reason, the Seekers of the Storm update has tied Risk of Rain 2’s physics systems to its frame rate. When asked about it on Discord, Gearbox developer GBX-Preston said FPS-related issues, “and all the ramifications on balance/physics/attack speed/movement/etc. were not intentional. This is in our top handful of issues we’re investigating.” As a stopgap, he said players experiencing issues should lock the game at 60 fps.

Amazing. How the fuck did you do that?

addie ,
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It’s in Unity, isn’t it? So rather than multiplying the speeds by Time.deltaTime when you’re doing frame updates, you just don’t do that. Easy peasy. They’ve got that real “Japanese game devs from twenty years ago” vibe going.

bigmclargehuge ,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

You mean “Bethesda to this day?”

ms_lane ,

They fixed that with 76, Both 76 and Starfield have physics untied from framerate.

Zoboomafoo ,

Or even a decade ago. Dark Souls 2 had some enemies’ attack animations tied to frame rate, like the Alonne Knights. So they attacked incredibly fast on PC compared to console.

Weapon degradation was also tied to framerate :(

Cornelius_Wangenheim ,

At least Gearbox isn’t spending a year+ denying that the problem exists.

xavier666 ,

Minecraft has this wonderful mechanism where everything is dependent on game-tick/server-tick, which is independent of player FPS. Why do modern developers keep using FPS for game physics?

CluckN ,

From what I’ve read they tried to combine the console and PC version into a unified single version. Gearbox must’ve seen the Borderlands movie and sought to lower the bar below the ocean floor.

simple OP ,

Something to note is that it’s not just the DLC, the patch that released alongside it introduced a slew of bugs to everyone who owns the game. Apparently this includes framerate now affecting things like movement speeds, enemies sometimes dealing insane bursts of damage randomly, invisible enemy projectiles, among other gameplay breaking stuff. Total disaster.

Sigh… I guess we saw it coming with Gearbox…

xavier666 ,

You mean if I just update my game on Steam, it will get messed up? I don’t have the DLC

simple OP ,

Yes.

jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Obviously, the solution is to use the turbo button to slow things down.

ALERT ,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

What’s all the hate about? I have already played this dlc for 8 hours and have seen zero bugs.

Wrufieotnak ,

Saying your own anecdotal experience to counter balance a reported problem for many others is fine. Acting like those problems don’t exist is stupid.

Read the article and you will know ‘what all the hate is about’.

dhhyfddehhfyy4673 ,

Steam should implement mandatory version history rollbacks. Super lame that it's optional, at the dev's discretion.

breadguyyy ,

main issue is that with console parity and unity version upgrade a lot of things are now tied to fps, but they are aware of it and are working on it. the main issues were regional pricing (which has been remedied) and all embracer products (including this dlc) being unpurchasable in Russia. Basically, give it a couple weeks

KeraKali ,

Wel it was in a pretty good place until they came along…

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