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Ashyr ,

This joke seems to imply that mostly women are feminists. As a man who is also a staunch feminist, the joke really didn’t land for me.

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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My thoughts exactly. Methinks too many people don’t know what feminism is.

Kolli ,

Feminism is tainted by the portrayal of the hardcore and extreme ones. I think every reasonable person thinks that women too should be treated fairly.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, I just don’t call myself feminist, I call myself a reasonable human being.

agamemnonymous ,
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I think “feminism” is an inherently biased label. The core concept is “egalitarianism”. I think the “treat women better” mentality, in an age with much more gender equality than that in which “feminism” took root, has provided for a shift from “treat women equal to men” to “treat women better than men”. I personally think “egalitarianism” is much better branding, across all identities.

Hazmatastic ,

They hear the word and they think of misandry, primarily because so many misandrists think they’re feminists and very loudly proclaim so. The problem is, the more you try to convince them feminism isn’t what they think, the more they tune you out because if you talk about feminism so much, you must hate men enough to dole out your own hatred as payback. Which is exactly the preconception you’re trying to address.

Idk, maybe feminism just needs a good ol’ rebranding. I think it would at least win over a lot of the under 50 crowd.

Kolli ,

Isn’t that implication correct though? No ragebait here, but aren’t feminists mostly women?

Can’t be bothered to dig up data, but it seems like it’s a reasonable assumption to make.

Rachelhazideas ,

There are probably more women with internalized misogyny than men who are feminist. This is not to say that there are few male feminists, there is just a lot of women in the world and not everyone has caught up yet.

adriaan ,

According to this article, about 40% of men and 60% of women identify as feminist. That means only about 60% of feminists are women, at least in the States.

phorq ,

I would say the feminist part is that they have to pay you, but technically it’s not your money and you’re given the minimum allowance your corporate daddy is allowed to pay…

Fiivemacs ,

What

JJROKCZ ,

When my wife worked there in high school over a decade ago they paid several dollars an hour over minimum wage, in a rural Illinois town that did not require making more than minimum to live decently. Idk if they’re all like that though since obviously franchise owners are all different

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