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WeirdAlex03 ,
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The three -verse terms I’ve heard in use are:

  • Fediverse: All the (ActivityPub-based) federated services with at least some degree of interoperability between each other
  • Threadiverse: Subset of fediverse focused on threads-based discussion, like link aggregation/forums-style (as opposed to i.e. microblogging)
  • Lemmyverse: Subset of threadiverse specifically running Lemmy (as opposed to i.e. Kbin)
sab ,

Lemmyverse doesn't really make sense, as it would all be visible from Kbin instances (unless they are all defederated).

What would make sense is a term for the "microblogverse", referring to all the posts from Mastodon/Miskey/Kbin/etc. This makes up the majority of the Fediverse, but it's mostly invisible to Lemmy users.

Emotional_Series7814 ,

As a Kbin user, microblogs definitely are not all the posts we make here. We can both microblog through "Add new post" and make a thread through "Add new link", "Add new thread", and "Add new photo".

sab ,

Ah, yeah, sorry - that was badly phrased. I shouldn't have included Kbin on that list. I'm on Kbin myself, just worded myself poorly. :)

Emotional_Series7814 ,

Sorry! One thing Kbin doesn't do and that Lemmy seems to do sometimes is telling me, without me clicking on the user's profile, which platform and instance a poster is posting from.

sab ,

In practice, it's Lemmy and Kbin.

More theoretically, it's the part of the Fediverse that deals with threads rather than posts: You share some sort of content (text, images, a video, a link) along with a title, and people comment on it. The most common content type in the Fedverse is posts/microblogs, which it what Mastodon operates with. These posts are generally not visible from Lemmy, meaning that the majority of the Fediverse is invisible from Lemmy; what you see from there is only the "threadiverse" part. Kbin seeks to bridge the two.

You can view threads in Mastodon, but they appear only as the text of the title along with a link to the rest of the content. People can of course comment as normal.

otter ,

To me, it’s the parts of the Fediverse that take the format of forums/Reddit

So far I think that’s mostly Lemmy and Kbin

Nerd02 ,
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Yeah it’s Lemmy + Kbin. I’m not aware of any other federated link aggregators (read as Reddit clones), but if there are they would also fit.

swab148 ,
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I believe Mastodon would be included as well, basically anywhere you can post with comments and has implemented the ActivityPub protocol.

Tywele ,

It does not include Mastodon. Everything that has implemented the ActivityPub protocol is called the Fediverse.

swab148 ,
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I see the difference, so it’s pretty much just kbin and Lemmy, then?

pacmondo ,

For now, but it also includes any future thread-based activitypub implementation that may crop up

Nerd02 ,
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I don’t think it does, Mastodon is a microblogging platform, not a link aggregator. “Threadiverse” specifically means “the link aggregator part of the Fediverse”, because most Fediverse projects are microblogs.

ada ,
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Friendica has been doing it longer than Lemmy or kbin, but it’s a microblogging platform with a feature rich groups/thread aggregator implementation, rather than a groups focused platform like Lemmy and kbin.

mac ,
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Currently theres also mbin (fork of kbin) and lotide that have instances running them

Also some others in development but nobody running them yet

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