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'"Walmartwifi" isn't compatible with iCloud Private Relay' | Store demands privacy sacrifice to use internet in their cavernous dead zone of a building

This is after forcing login to a store account:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8620320c-f420-41ef-a9e3-a2e92aadd3fc.jpeg

At least they don’t hide in their ToS that:

“l agree to let Walmart monitor my use of Walmart WiFi, including to:

  • Determine my presence in Walmart stores
  • Associate information about me with my Walmart account
  • Improve products and services
  • Gather market insights about my in-store purchases and activities”

But that’s not enough, they need to monitor your internet activity further too.

For further reading, some greatest hits (the section headers on Wiki’s Criticism of Walmart):

  • Local communities
  • Allegations of predatory pricing and supplier issues
  • Labor relations
  • Poorly run and understaffed stores
  • No AEDs in stores (automated external defibrillators)
  • Imports and globalization
  • Product selection
  • Taxes
  • Animal welfare
  • Midtown Walmart
  • Opioids settlement
tobogganablaze ,

I don’t understand why you would need wifi in a supermarket. What are you doing while shopping that mobile data can’t handle?

lemmingnosis OP ,

Just pulling down a few KB!

LifeOfChance ,

Large warehouse type buildings make getting a signal difficult ESPECIALLY in a walmart. I prefer using the app to find items I wouldn’t otherwise know where to look.

tobogganablaze ,

Yeah, I didn’t consider those absurdly large US malls, my bad.

IsThisAnAI ,

Nah. Their network their rules. Quit your bitching or use 5g.

lemmingnosis OP ,

privacy sacrifice to use internet in their cavernous dead zone of a building

It was a worthwhile sacrifice, but I’m definitely gonna name & shame! Wouldn’t touch WiFi if it weren’t a dead zone.

Also gave me a chance to complain about some of their other business practices. (Certainly wouldn’t have shopped there if I hadn’t been asked to this one time.)

I’ve never seen this message before so they seem an outlier even in the greedy corporate world. Enough complaints and every once in a while a business changes their practices. Why not whine a little? 🙂

IsThisAnAI ,

The privacy community and yourself have become the equivalent of windows UAC. It’s tiresome and no sane person with an understanding of technology would ever have the expectation of privacy on a public WiFi network. There are legal and compliance obligations.

A_Random_Idiot ,

complaining about a lack of privacy on a public wifi node is like complaining that people are perverts for looking at your genitals when you run down the street naked.

takeda ,

LOL, “your communication cannot go through our service that we can monitor, so somebody else might be spying on you, black is white, war is peace, freedom is slavery”

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

The irony of using Apple products, thinking “Private” means “private”.

lemmingnosis OP ,

How do ya compare incentives of Apple/Cloudflare & the big box store in terms of data privacy?

stoy ,

That is true of Android as well.

And remember that while iOS is built by a tech company first and foremost, Android is built by an advertisement company first and foremost.

I have tried both, and only Android gives me the feeling that someone is constantly looking over my shoulder.

I know Apple does also, but I don’t get the same feeling.

takeda ,

You pay the premium price to feel better about the same thing.

stoy ,

Quite possible

IsThisAnAI ,

I’m sure your feelings are more accurate than thousands of thousand security researchers trying to make a name for themselves.

This is more “Alexa is spying on me” ignorance and paranoia.

This entire thread…

stoy ,

Since there are so many security researchers agreeing with you, why didn’t you link a few reports to support your claim?

IsThisAnAI ,

Ahh right, the old disprove god doesn’t exist argument. 👌👍

I’m sure Google and Amazon have secret whistleblower tech that has some how kept any evidence of this massive program secretly stealing everyone’s data without leaving a trace.

hperrin ,

Do you think the advertising company’s phone is more private?

Google doesn’t make money when you buy a Samsung Galaxy. Google tracks everything you do on your Galaxy. They then take this data and sell targeted advertisement at you. Google makes money when they sell you to advertisers.

Apple makes money when you buy an iPhone.

takeda ,

Apple appears to be double dipping. I don’t use apple products beyond a MacBook. Why for example the laptop has a unique advertiser id (which looks like it can’t even be disabled in newer os versions)?

IsThisAnAI ,

Google offers an easy to use VPN and bountiful security controls.

So yes. Unless you can point out what your actually talking about instead of vague generalities.

30p87 ,

Murrica lmao

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