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VelociCatTurd ,

Literally the notes app?

cheese_greater OP ,

I don’t allow iCloud on my Mac.

VelociCatTurd ,

You don’t have to use iCloud. I assume any major email will let you sync notes.

railsdev ,

It does. I store notes related to work on my work email account.

cheese_greater OP ,

Do you mean in a similar fashion as Calendars and Contacts? Are you sure that’s like a “NotesDav” and not just iCloud?

cosmic_slate ,
@cosmic_slate@dmv.social avatar

What security issues are you talking about? Universal Clipboard (via Handoff) operates over BLE locally. iCloud is used in part of the process to facilitate key exchange.

If the government/other actor is going through the effort of getting Apple to somehow disclose this key (assuming that it would even be possible) and lurk outside your window, you have bigger things to worry about.

support.apple.com/guide/security/…/web

cheese_greater OP , (edited )

Edit: I need to read up and differentiate

  1. Universal clipboard
  2. Handoff
  3. Continuity
  4. anything else?

My mistake definitely for not trying to clarify these disparate terms beforehand. Thanks, I will try to do that

cosmic_slate ,
@cosmic_slate@dmv.social avatar

Read the link I provided. Apple documents the security mechanisms of how a lot of their services work. Universal Clipboard (and handoff) does not use iMessage.

You may find additional things documented here:

support.apple.com/guide/security/welcome/web

This whole area of their support site is well worth the read if you are concerned about security and privacy.

cheese_greater OP ,

I’ve read a lot of their whitepapery security stuff but my understanding and differentiation of terms like “Continuity”, “Handoff”, “Universal ______”, “Airplay” vs “Screen Mirroring” etc needs revision and reconsolidation.

mkwarman ,

I have found that the Universal Clipboard works well for me

investorsexchange ,
@investorsexchange@lemmy.ca avatar

Also, if you are logged in to iCloud and you copy text on your iPhone, you can paste it on your Mac. And vice versa.

CubbyTustard ,

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    andrewta ,

    Can you send an imessage to yourself?

    cheese_greater OP ,

    I don’t use iMessage on any of my devices.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    I don’t allow iCloud or iMessage on my Mac. They are just to problematic for me in that context.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Does that require iCloud? I won’t use iCloud on my Mac :(

    mkwarman ,

    Yes. It would be a security issue without iCloud, as there would be no way to prevent an unauthorized party from accessing clipboard contents

    cheese_greater OP , (edited )

    I can do Airplay/Screen mirrorin/AirDrop between like 4/5 different devices without iCloud, I don’t think that’s so much an issue if my analogy here is relevant to the points you raised

    darkstar ,

    Literally just use Signal. E2EE and open source

    randomTingler ,

    I’m not a user of Apple products. But KDE has developed a tool to share stuff locally.

    kdeconnect.kde.org/download.html

    The requirement is that both the devices should be in the same local network. Give it a try and provide your feedback.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Yes I should check that one out. I’ve had success using Sync to sync other dynamic files that I need to keep up to date but again, it can be a little clunky and it mostly works at the file level rather than random bits of text that aren’t even technically at the level of a file (I don’t think?)

    randomTingler ,

    You can share the clipboard. I always do it between mobile and Linux pc. I assume you can’t keep the history of what you copied into the clipboard in Mac or iOS.

    YourAvgMortal ,

    I don’t know if you count airdrop as continuity, but you could try that. Also, you should be able to iMessage yourself

    cheese_greater OP ,

    How fo you AirDrop just like highligted text?

    redballooon ,

    Highlight so that this menu comes up that allows you to cut, copy etc. Scroll to the right until “Share…” becomes available. Select that, then Airdrop

    cheese_greater OP ,

    I think this might be the way

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Ding-ding-ding! This is the way, thank you!

    hotstove ,

    Stop asking the same question in the same sub.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Huh?

    treadful ,
    @treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

    What do you mean by continuity issues?

    cheese_greater OP ,

    I thought Continuity was an iCloud thing, rather than a bluetooth thing. I have concerns about iCloud and iMessage but bluetooth I’m seemingly more comfortable with

    treadful ,
    @treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

    Oh, Continuity is a piece of software. I thought you were describing like the state of text through time or something. lol

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Capitalization (and punctuation) saves lives hehe

    BeanCounter ,

    Bitwarden also has send feature that really comes in handy.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Ya but thats way to clunky and involved. Just want a quick AirDropish kinda thing

    whynotzoidberg ,

    I know you said not continuity, but that’s literally what you’re describing. I highlight text on one device, copy, and can paste it on the other device.

    Not clunky. Just works.

    Otherwise, I guess you could just save a txt file on a network share, access it through the Files app, and use that as your “Universal Clipboard”.

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Whoops, perhaps I need to learn a bit more about this Continuity thing. I just perceived it as something where it would constantly be talking between my phone and Mac without any input from me and create a security issue. I absolutely think of iMessage that way and that belief has largely been vindicated but maybe the Continuity is a little more secure and less full of security holes…

    cheese_greater OP ,

    Full disclosure: i use AirPlay already so I might already be an ignorant hypocrite but I just can’t seem to figure this out without y’all’s help 😭

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